# Why did we start using "Ms" instead of calling all adult women "Mrs"?

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**Created:** [January 3, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-we-start-using-ms-instead-of-calling-all-adult-women-mrs/929596 "2021-01-03T21:03:52Z")\
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Here’s a recent thread that goes into the history and common adoption of the term.

> [@Why Ms Clinton instead of Mrs Clinton?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-ms-clinton-instead-of-mrs-clinton/841683):
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> Politics aside, why the tendency to write it (and say it, as far as I know) Ms instead of Mrs? I routinely see it used either way. For instance, “Kearson: Why do you think Ms. Clinton is unelectable?” [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=21911669](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=21911669) Did she get divorced and I missed it, or is the prefix no longer a determiner of marital status? Upon rereading the question before I post it, or is it politics?

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