# Why didn't Jesus write anything down?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 26, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712 "2011-02-26T17:21:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/181 "2011-03-02T04:10:22Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The Synoptics have him claiming to be the Messiah, which is the same thing. Whether he really made that claim historically is a different question, but the Gospels do seem to say he claimed to be the Messiah.

To be clear, _seeming_ to say he said it is not the same as _he said it._

But just for grins, show me where it seems like he said it.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/182 "2011-03-02T04:11:49Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> When does Jesus _ever_ give a straight answer? He was arrested for having said it, put on trial, and proved to have done so. He never particularly denies it, he just waffles about his answer.
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> We may not have a time machine to verify anything for certain, but the Bible gives a good indication that this is at least one thing that he did to annoy the people of Jerusalem.

Show me where it was _“proved to have done so.”_

Show me.

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/183 "2011-03-02T04:23:51Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> This is my area of knowledge. I know what I’m talking about and I don’t have a personal agenda. … You can take that to the bank.

That’s not good enough. If “trust me, I know” was enough, Kanicbird and Lekatt would be the kings of Great Debates. If you want to be persuasive, link to websites and papers, give us page numbers from the books you read, explain how other people’s cites fall short instead of simply dismissing them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/184 "2011-03-02T04:47:23Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> To be clear, _seeming_ to say he said it is not the same as _he said it._
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> But just for grins, show me where it seems like he said it.

_Again the high priest asked him, and saith unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 14:62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven_  
(Mk. 16:51-62)

_Christos_ is the Greek translation of “Messiah.”

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/185 "2011-03-02T07:04:39Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> Show me where it was _“proved to have done so.”_
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> Show me.

He was taken to court, witnesses were brought in and questioned, they noticed St. Peter and asked him if he knew something and wanted to testify (instead he just ran away), and subsequently found Jesus guilty. That’s more or less how we determine guilt today.

There’s four gospels, all saying that. What part is in question?

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-jesus-write-anything-down/572712/186 "2011-03-02T12:28:01Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> _Again the high priest asked him, and saith unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 14:62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven_  
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> _Christos_ is the Greek translation of “Messiah.”

If Jesus made this claim(as quoted) and the high priest didn’t see Him sitting at the right hand of power he was not being truthful or was misled! Jesus also used the Psalmist (that said" I say you are gods, and sons of the most high" In a sense saying all men are gods! So in this sense he could be called son of the blessed!

There were men who claimed to be the Messiah one named Simon around 4 BCE and he also believed he had to die for the people,

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