# Why didn't these posts in the Pit warrant any mod notice at all?

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**Created:** [July 28, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654 "2012-07-28T06:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/61 "2012-07-29T22:35:14Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Let’s go down to the saguaro and throw **Bo** on there!

Where’s the \*\*Like \*\*button, damnit?

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/62 "2012-07-29T23:47:42Z")

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Under the current rules, it’s apparently okay to tell someone to go fuck a cactus. It is not okay to call someone a motherfucker, although variants are not specifically prohibited.

- Is it okay to call someone a cactus fucker?
- What if the cactus is their mother?
- Why is _motherfucker_ prohibited but _father raper_ is not? The mods must condone father raping. I am not a father, but on behalf of fathers everywhere, I am insulted.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/63 "2012-07-30T00:17:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The insult was never anything I protested, either here or in the reports I sent. The issue is that it appears that proscribed language is being used with no intervention from a mod.
> 
> How is “fuck a cactus” not a variant of what is listed as being proscribed?

While many members are a little prickly, to the best of my knowledge none of them are actually cacti.

Q.E.D.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/64 "2012-07-30T01:57:53Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Simple. When we sign up, they send a team to our house, strip search us, take away all of our guns and sharp pointed instruments. I don’t even have scissors left in the place. That, and the duct tape holding my hands to the keyboard insure I can’t even make a fist. It’s discouraging, I tells ya.

But do they make you fuck a cactus?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/65 "2012-07-30T05:54:41Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Let’s go down to the saguaro and throw Bo on there!

Yeah, Bo. Sounds like you’ve “sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind” (Old Testament for “gettin’ what you been askin’ for”)

If you truly want this place to be more civilized, stop using that catchphrase.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/66 "2012-07-30T07:01:19Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Yeah, Bo. Sounds like you’ve “sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind” (Old Testament for “gettin’ what you been askin’ for”)
> 
> If you truly want this place to be more civilized, stop using that catchphrase.

Ah, I see. You’re saying that I am responsible for the incivility of others. Sorry, no. The situation is unchanged from last winter: I’m doing nothing wrong.

As for those who think I started this thread because the insults were directed at me: you’re wrong, and have nothing to back up your assertions. Many people also seem to be remarkably thin-skinned for something as innocuous as “Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there” to get so far underneath their epidermis.

I appreciate the info from the Mods here, tho, and look forward to them explaining their perspective regarding the questions I asked in [post#33](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15323779&postcount=33) and in [post #36](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15323815&postcount=36).

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/67 "2012-07-30T07:10:07Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Forgot this part:
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> The abbreviation “e.g.” stands for the Latin phrase “exempli gratia” which in English means “for example”.
> 
> Yet the argument that the Mods are making seems to be that they have re-interpreted the phrase so that it now means “but nothing more”:

Oh my God. Dude. Be for real.

And seriously, your catchphrase is not “innocuous,” it is fucking annoying. It is functionally equivalent to your little brother holding his finger .00000001 millimeters away from you and saying, “I’m not touching you!” “I’m not touching you!” and then you complain to your parents and he says “WHAT! I’m not touching her! I’m not doing anything wrong!” And then you tell him to go fuck a cactus.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/68 "2012-07-30T07:10:08Z")

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Maybe because most people would take a hint that it’s incredibly annoying and not funny, which you haven’t done? It was suggested you use it as your signature instead. But that wasn’t good enough. Well, you annoy enough people, they tell you to piss off, and you whine about it.  
You don’t seem to understand the difference between “annoyed” and “thin-skinned”.

It’s more of a “Oh, not again, Jesus, is he ever going to shut the fuck up with that thing?” rather than, “SHUT UP, BO, YOU SUCK I HATE YOU FOR THAT DIE DIE DIE!!!”

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/69 "2012-07-30T08:37:06Z")

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Children latch onto the strangest things.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/70 "2012-07-30T08:51:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> As for those who think I started this thread because the insults were directed at me: you’re wrong, and have nothing to back up your assertions.

My god, man. If this thread isn’t about the insults it means that your entire purpose for starting this is to argue for stricter language rules in the pit. Is that really what you want?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/71 "2012-07-30T11:00:00Z")

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I can only speak for myself, but ideally I’d like free reign to say what I want, while others are shackled by an esoteric and amorphous set of individually applied arbitrary rules whose stringency and potential consequence are indirectly proportional to how much I like each poster personally from moment to moment.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/72 "2012-07-30T13:00:36Z")

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I hate to just post what has already been said, and said better than I can say, but goddamn, enforcing these retarded pit rules has got to be more trouble than it’s worth. Especially since the goal, a half-neutered BBQ Pit, is a shitty goal to begin with.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/73 "2012-07-30T13:15:46Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Ah, I see. You’re saying that I am responsible for the incivility of others. Sorry, no. The situation is unchanged from last winter: I’m doing nothing wrong.
> 
> As for those who think I started this thread because the insults were directed at me: you’re wrong, and have nothing to back up your assertions. Many people also seem to be remarkably thin-skinned for something as innocuous as “Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there” to get so far underneath their epidermis.
> 
> I appreciate the info from the Mods here, tho, and look forward to them explaining their perspective regarding the questions I asked in [post#33](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15323779&postcount=33) and in [post #36](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15323815&postcount=36).

So the question is, if you know it’s irritating to people, yet you continue to do it, aren’t you flagrantly violating the “don’t be a jerk” rule? I mean, if you want to push the rule lawyering about the cacti _in flagrante delicto,_ wouldn’t it also be just as valid for others to push the lawyering of the jerking too?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/74 "2012-07-30T13:34:04Z")

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Did I just say “free reign”? Dammit. Rein.

ETA: and I’d also like to be the only one allowed to edit his posts at all times.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/75 "2012-07-30T13:47:28Z")

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I second the motion to have Vinyl Turnip be allowed to edit Snowboarder Bo’s posts at all times.

Or maybe I read that wrong.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/76 "2012-07-30T14:18:43Z")

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Seems like a fair compromise.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/77 "2012-07-30T14:27:02Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Yeah, Bo. Sounds like you’ve “sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind” (Old Testament for “gettin’ what you been askin’ for”)
> 
> If you truly want this place to be more civilized, stop using that catchphrase.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Ah, I see. You’re saying that I am responsible for the incivility of others. Sorry, no. The situation is unchanged from last winter: I’m doing nothing wrong…

You _are_ responsible for the your own incivility.

Okay, either you’re as autistic as some of my students (they have absolutely no ability to draw cause-and-effect between their actions and consequences). Or you’ve crossed the line into asshole territory.

You can not honestly be saying “I want to be a jerk to everyone else, and then call them on ‘incivility’.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/78 "2012-07-30T15:01:50Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’d also like to be the only one allowed to edit his posts at all times.

Become a Mod.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/79 "2012-07-30T15:32:59Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> You can not honestly be saying “I want to be a jerk to everyone else, and then call them on ‘incivility’.”

Yes, he can. And he is. He’s having trouble distinguishing between “posting my catch phrase isn’t breaking any rules” vs “posting my catch phrase _just to piss people off_ isn’t breaking any rules”

> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Become a Mod.

All in favor say aye.

Aye!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-these-posts-in-the-pit-warrant-any-mod-notice-at-all/629654/80 "2012-07-30T16:03:51Z")

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I’m sure everyone’s eager to reenact the Stanford prison experiment…

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