# Why didn't Whoopi Goldberg kill herself?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 30, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022 "2008-11-30T04:20:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/1 "2008-11-30T04:20:28Z")

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Is there ever a reason for anyone, anywhere, to agree to star in a movie like _[Theodore Rex](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114658/)_? I mean, has there ever been a clearer sign that a career has fallen below rock bottom than a movie about a cop and her new partner, a cop also, but also a dinosaur (in red Chucks)?

Seriously, at what point do you kill yourself? Shouldn’t that point be before you make a movie like _Theodore Rex?_ Wait, I’ll be right back, the dinosaur is doing a Scottish accent now.

OK, I’m back. I will never be the same after that.

Anyway. And what about _[Quigley](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0350022/)_? In which Gary Busey plays a little white dog, and spends much of the movie on his hands and knees wearing a black leather dog collar? Again, shouldn’t suicide be somewhere on the scale between _Point Break_ and _Quigley_?

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**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/2 "2008-11-30T04:24:50Z")

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Since when is a poor career choice a reason for suicide?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/3 "2008-11-30T04:29:24Z")

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Hey, there’s an alternate side to every coin. If she _had_ killed herself, we never would have been blessed with the genius that is _Sister Act 2_.

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**Author:** ![Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesus_Harold_Christ)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/4 "2008-11-30T04:29:29Z")

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How about right before they decide to work as a video store clerk?

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/5 "2008-11-30T04:30:25Z")

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There was a contract issue IIRC for Whoopi in Theodore Rex. She didn’t want to do the movie but this was around the time another actress (Kim Basinger, I think) had gotten into hot water for breaking a contract.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/6 "2008-11-30T04:42:59Z")

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Wasn’t there some sort of creepy Adam and Eve subplot involving Mr. Rex and a female of his species? I watched it as a teen and seem to recall some sort of gross insinuation of dino-sex.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/7 "2008-11-30T04:44:06Z")

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> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#):
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> How about right before they decide to work as a video store clerk?

Wow, based on quite a few of your threads, what an utter surprise you’re upping your trolling and just coming right out to be a jerk. My, such an excellent way of making your stay here that much shorter.

Not that it’s any great revelation, but the staff will be discussing your posting privileges.

ETA: It was a short discussion.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/8 "2008-11-30T04:48:35Z")

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The dinosaur just did, back to back, an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression, and a Jack Nicholson impression.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/9 "2008-11-30T04:51:21Z")

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> [@Jolly\_Roger](#):
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> There was a contract issue IIRC for Whoopi in Theodore Rex. She didn’t want to do the movie but this was around the time another actress (Kim Basinger, I think) had gotten into hot water for breaking a contract.

Kim Basinger’s career never recovered from her breaking the contract for ‘Boxing Helena’.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/10 "2008-11-30T05:10:32Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Kim Basinger’s career never recovered from her breaking the contract for ‘Boxing Helena’.

Whoosh?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/11 "2008-11-30T05:18:08Z")

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> [@Jolly\_Roger](#):
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> There was a contract issue IIRC for Whoopi in Theodore Rex. She didn’t want to do the movie but this was around the time another actress (Kim Basinger, I think) had gotten into hot water for breaking a contract.

Right. The production company claimed that she had entered into a verbal contract to do the film a few years before, and sued her for $20 mil. when she tried to back out. She ended up agreeing to do the movie in exchange for them dropping the lawsuit.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/12 "2008-11-30T05:19:39Z")

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_Theodore Rex_ is available on DVD.

_The African Queen_ is not.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/13 "2008-11-30T05:39:36Z")

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Nearly everything I wanted to say in this thread has already been said so I’ll just add that **Theodore Rex** has the dubious distinction of being by far the most expensive movie ever to go STV (straight-to-video).

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/14 "2008-11-30T05:40:00Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> _The African Queen_ is not.

It is in [Australia](http://www.sanity.com.au/product/product.asp?sku=366268) if you want me to pick one up for you.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/15 "2008-11-30T05:51:45Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> a cop also, but also a dinosaur (in red Chucks)

This gives me an excuse to comment on the fact that I thought I was the only one who ever noticed the “male character on a TV show/movie in red Chucks=wacky” code, but even _[The Onion](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31824)_ has poked fun at it.

I’ve never seen _Theodore Rex_, but I have heard of it- and the whole premise sounds like something Homer Simpson would have thought up.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/16 "2008-11-30T05:59:12Z")

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IMHO, the world would have been better off if Gary Busey (and Billy Zane) had committed suicide right before agreeing to do [Kurtlar vadisi - Irak](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493264/). For those of you _not_ familiar with the film (which was made in '06), let me just point you to what [Wikipedia says about it:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurtlar_Vadisi_-_Irak)

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> The film features a Jewish-American Army doctor (Gary Busey) who harvests fresh organs from injured Iraqi prisoners to sell to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv for transplantation.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/17 "2008-11-30T06:02:11Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> It is in [Australia](http://www.sanity.com.au/product/product.asp?sku=366268) if you want me to pick one up for you.

Wow. Thanks but no. I’m not a huge fan of the movie, but I’d love one for the store. Unfortunately most of our customers couldn’t play a Region 4 disc.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/18 "2008-11-30T09:30:11Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> This gives me an excuse to comment on the fact that I thought I was the only one who ever noticed the “male character on a TV show/movie in red Chucks=wacky” code, but even _[The Onion](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31824)_ has poked fun at it.

Hey, The Doctor wears red Chucks and he’s not - oh, wait.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/19 "2008-11-30T14:40:33Z")

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Re. the OP – what, and never taste Entenmann’s again? :dubious:

I won’t [ever] be seeing _T. Rex_, but surely the thespish career limbo bar was set very low by Richard Pryor in _The Toy_… and by John Travolta in _Battlefield Earth_…

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-didnt-whoopi-goldberg-kill-herself/475022/20 "2008-11-30T15:42:11Z")

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Ironically, the dinosaur was later found dead of a barbituate overdose, shortly after landing a walk-on role in _Star Trek: Nemesis_.

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