# Why do Americans call our Black Pudding "Blood Pie"? And why the hostility towards **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254 "2008-10-09T23:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/61 "2008-10-10T17:29:02Z")
> [@Tahssa](#): > > Bolding mine. > > Oh we have Fish N’ Chips and I personally love it. > > [http://www.ljsilvers.com/](http://www.ljsilvers.com/) > > But the thing is you guys put MUSHY peas on it and that is yucky and just another example of why we think some of your food is weird and yucky. No, no, no!!! We have mushy peas WITH F n C not on. If you have never tried mushies with a sprinkling of vinegar then you’ve missed a treat my friend. BTW when I say chips I mean chips, big fat juicy fuck off buggers, none of those faggoty things you call chips…scrawny bastard excuses for 'em is all ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/62 "2008-10-10T17:38:08Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > While on the subject of food. > > What English speaking nation has not embraced, nay welcomed, that most British of culinary delights…Fish n’ Chips with, and I hasten to add, MUSHY peas. > > The USA that’s who. > > Instead they have the effrontery, gall and temerity to foist upon the citizens of this fair land such abominations as KFC, MCDonalds and Burger King. > > Bastards 🙂 Every Irish bar in Seattle (and the few English ones) have fish-n-chips. I practically live on the stuff. I’m sure there are some presentation and cooking differences but we definitely have embraced it. You can keep the mushy peas part though. That is just weird. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/63 "2008-10-10T17:39:52Z")
This thread is making me hungry. I vacationed in the UK a few years ago, and loved black pudding and tomatoes at breakfast (along with some good strong tea). ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/64 "2008-10-10T17:41:30Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > No, no, no!!! > > We have mushy peas WITH F n C not on. > > If you have never tried mushies with a sprinkling of vinegar then you’ve missed a treat my friend. > > BTW when I say chips I mean chips, big fat juicy fuck off buggers, none of those faggoty things you call chips…scrawny bastard excuses for 'em is all The [faggoty things](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/blahthequah/711px-Mr-Brains-Faggots-Pack.jpg) I’ve had were a species of meatball. What would one have to do to a potato to make it faggoty? ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/65 "2008-10-10T17:44:08Z")
Since when as it been called “fish-n-chips” ? The correct term is fish **and** chips. The above seems to be an American invention, probably sold in an “Old Fish-N-Chip Shoppe” somewhere in California. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/66 "2008-10-10T17:52:55Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > The [faggoty things](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/blahthequah/711px-Mr-Brains-Faggots-Pack.jpg) I’ve had were a species of meatball. What would one have to do to a potato to make it faggoty? You’d slice it thinner than a stick insects dick, that’s how. Ooooh, you mentioned Brains Faggots, luvverly stuff with mashed spuds and peas ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/67 "2008-10-10T17:55:09Z")
> [@Rayne\_Man](#): > > Since when as it been called “fish-n-chips” ? > > The correct term is fish **and** chips. The above seems to be an American invention, probably sold in an “Old Fish-N-Chip Shoppe” somewhere in California. So you walk into your chippie and ask for "Fish **and** chips do you?. It must be very posh where you live:D I ask for Fish 'n chips ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/68 "2008-10-10T18:01:27Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > You’d slice it thinner than a stick insects dick, that’s how. > > Ooooh, you mentioned Brains Faggots, luvverly stuff with mashed spuds and peas Just to forestall any questions about the above. The faggots do not contain brains. They were originally made by a Mr. Brain. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/69 "2008-10-10T18:04:12Z")
Well, if you called it blood sausage I might actually try it, assuming it looked like sausage. I eat hot-dogs for heaven’s sake, and who knows what’s in those things. I know what sausage generally is. But if you tried to serve me something called black pudding, I wouldn’t eat it. I’ve heard how you people over on that side of the pond trickily give disgusting things harmless or disarming names. Black pudding would totally set off my alarm-o-meter. BTW, this American looooves french fries with a good malt vinegar splashed all over 'em. Lay’s potato chip company (and many others I’m sure) make salt & vinegar potato chips and as far as I can tell, they sell really well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/70 "2008-10-10T18:09:30Z")
> [@gazpacho](#): > > Deep fried Coke is Coke flavored batter that is deep fried. Okay, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/71 "2008-10-10T18:26:08Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Lay’s potato chip company (and many others I’m sure) make salt & vinegar potato chips and as far as I can tell, they sell really well. “Salt & Vinegar” flavoured crisps are indeed good, but they have their tiny potatoey asses kicked by “Cheese & Onion”, “Prawn Cocktail” and “Smoky Bacon” flavoured crisps. ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/72 "2008-10-10T18:33:30Z")
> [@Szlater](#): > > “Salt & Vinegar” flavoured crisps are indeed good, but they have their tiny potatoey asses kicked by “Cheese & Onion”, “Prawn Cocktail” and “Smoky Bacon” flavoured crisps. As a link to the above post about Gypsies and hedgehogs, does anyone remember hedgehog flavoured crisps? :- [http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286](http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286) ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/73 "2008-10-10T18:36:21Z")
> [@Rayne\_Man](#): > > As a link to a post above about Gypsies and hedgehogs, does anyone remember hedgehog flavoured crisps? :- > > [http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286](http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286) Make it “Salt & Vinegar Hedgehog” flavored, and you’ve got me. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/74 "2008-10-10T18:48:18Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > No, no, no!!! > > We have mushy peas WITH F n C not on. > > If you have never tried \*\*mushies with a sprinkling of vinegar \*\*then you’ve missed a treat my friend. > > BTW when I say chips I mean chips, big fat juicy fuck off buggers, none of those faggoty things you call chips…scrawny bastard excuses for 'em is all Bolding mine. I do like peas it is just that it seems like a weird combination to go with fish n chips. BTW I would like to try them with vinegar but what kind of vinegar? Regular white vinegar or malt vinegar or some other kind? Lemme know and I’ll make some this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/75 "2008-10-10T18:50:59Z")
The comment about fried coke makes me think of a conversation I had with a friend at the fair two weeks ago. We walked by a booth that sold chocolate covered…things. The strawberries were obvious, but what was were the chunky cylinders covered in chocolate? We decided it must be banana, though it looked more like sausage. I’m pretty sure if we started a **deep fried chocolate covered sausage stand** , we’d do pretty well. People will buy anything fried at the fair. ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/76 "2008-10-10T18:52:09Z")
> [@Tahssa](#): > > Bolding mine. > > I do like peas it is just that it seems like a weird combination to go with fish n chips. BTW I would like to try them with vinegar but what kind of vinegar? Regular white vinegar or malt vinegar or some other kind? Lemme know and I’ll make some this weekend. Proper brown malt vinegar. Some fish and chips shops in the UK use an abomination called “non-brewed condiment” . This is factory-produced acetic acid and is vile ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/77 "2008-10-10T18:52:40Z")
“Blood pie” calls to mind [Klingon](http://www.geocities.com/Ktesh_kag/SMdesserts2.htm) [cuisine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_culture#Cuisine). ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/78 "2008-10-10T18:57:41Z")
> [@Rayne\_Man](#): > > As a link to the above post about Gypsies and hedgehogs, does anyone remember hedgehog flavoured crisps? :- > > [http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286](http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=4286) Yes I do, I bought a packet to try them, they tasted fucking awful ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/79 "2008-10-10T19:00:55Z")
> [@Tahssa](#): > > Bolding mine. > > I do like peas it is just that it seems like a weird combination to go with fish n chips. BTW I would like to try them with vinegar but what kind of vinegar? Regular white vinegar or malt vinegar or some other kind? Lemme know and I’ll make some this weekend. Apologies if you’re already aware of this, but making [mushy peas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushy_peas) is a little more involved than you might think. It’s not just a pea puree. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254/80 "2008-10-10T19:02:10Z")
> [@Tahssa](#): > > Bolding mine. > > I do like peas it is just that it seems like a weird combination to go with fish n chips. BTW I would like to try them with vinegar but what kind of vinegar? Regular white vinegar or malt vinegar or some other kind? Lemme know and I’ll make some this weekend. Be sure to use marrowfat and not garden peas. Soak the peas for a few hours, bring to the boil and simmer until most but not all the peas have turned mushy. Enjoy [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-americans-call-our-black-pudding-blood-pie-and-why-the-hostility-towards/467254.md?page=5)