# Why do Europeans seem so ungrateful to the US

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 2, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199 "2012-08-02T18:08:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/21 "2012-08-02T19:28:21Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> In a Game Room thread about Olympic sports, people are talking about how they’d like to change sports to make them more “European”, not recognizing that US culture is\*\* the\*\* dominant culture on Earth, and that it is becasue of our blood, sweat and $$ that Europeans countries are even around to have to worry about the issue. So Europe: show some gratitiude!

This is pretty much a made-up, bullshit analysis of the thread in question. No one said anything about changing sports to make them more European. Two posters exchanged jokes about football vs. soccer. You are an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/22 "2012-08-02T19:29:03Z")

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America, Fuck Yeah!

And, hey, while we’re at it, when are those goddamned Europeans going to start speaking English like Jesus Christ intended.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/23 "2012-08-02T19:30:13Z")

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> [@PaulParkhead](#):
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> Ah. That explains [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15339434&postcount=30). Made no sense to me - a bizarre response to what was obviously intended as a joke.
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> Edit: I say “obviously”, but I suppose I was the one who made the purported joke, so I don’t actually know for sure that it was obvious. I believe so.

I think he was one upping your joke with another. Everyone knows soccer is Canadian Football. No wait, that’s the one on ice. Cricket is just the funny way you say the funny word Croquet, which is French for Bocce.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/24 "2012-08-02T19:35:37Z")

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Because they secretly love us and want to bear our children. It’s like kindergarten, you know? When you like someone you pull their hair or tease them.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/25 "2012-08-02T19:37:00Z")

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Some days, I can’t bear my children. Maybe I could send them to Europe.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/26 "2012-08-02T19:38:08Z")

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I didn’t realize you were a WWII vet, etv.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/27 "2012-08-02T19:49:56Z")

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If, as the OP suggests, Europeans should be grateful to the U.S. for its contributions in World War II, should not Americans be similarly grateful for the contributions of the French in the American Revolution? So shouldn’t Americans show some gratitude as well?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/28 "2012-08-02T20:01:26Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> Some days, I can’t bear my children. Maybe I could send them to Europe.

You can outsource pregnancy?!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/29 "2012-08-02T20:01:43Z")

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I remember the good old days when all we had to pick on were the French.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/30 "2012-08-02T20:07:21Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> You can outsource pregnancy?!

It’s just like we warned you. This is what happens when you have socialized medicine. If it’s free, people will just use it because it’s free. Those Europeans are even having children for other people just because they don’t have to pay anything to do it.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/31 "2012-08-02T20:15:29Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> If, as the OP suggests, Europeans should be grateful to the U.S. for its contributions in World War II, should not Americans be similarly grateful for the contributions of the French in the American Revolution? So shouldn’t Americans show some gratitude as well?

We named our best whiskey after them. What more do they want?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/32 "2012-08-02T20:16:54Z")

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We have a whiskey named France?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/33 "2012-08-02T20:22:58Z")

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> [@Worst Olympic Sports](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-olympic-sports/630001/60):
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> I understand that you ended your post with a wink, but PLEASE get this through your skull: The people who call football soccer are the people who saved you from annahilation, many times. ANd allow you to have the wonderful health care and work conditions you so enjoy! Show some appreciation! (Sorry, I just couldn’t let this attitude go unchallegened again)

:eek:

For the record, it’s your attitude that needs adjusting. You, sir, are why I hate America.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/34 "2012-08-02T20:23:05Z")

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No, I believe it’s called Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys Special Blend.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/35 "2012-08-02T20:24:32Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> If, as the OP suggests, Europeans should be grateful to the U.S. for its contributions in World War II, should not Americans be similarly grateful for the contributions of the French in the American Revolution? So shouldn’t Americans show some gratitude as well?

That’s why both WWI and WWII have to be mentioned. WWI makes up for Lafeyette. But they still owe us for the Big One.

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/36 "2012-08-02T20:25:11Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> If, as the OP suggests, Europeans should be grateful to the U.S. for its contributions in World War II, should not Americans be similarly grateful for the contributions of the French in the American Revolution? So shouldn’t Americans show some gratitude as well?

Damn straight. If it wasn’t for the French, they’d all be speaking English now.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/37 "2012-08-02T20:28:28Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> We have a whiskey named France?

No, it’s named after [a county in Kentucky](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_County,_Kentucky), which in turn is named after the family that produced all those French kings called Louis.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/38 "2012-08-02T20:30:09Z")

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[Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane  
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again  
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt  
Adolf builts a bonfire, Enrico plays with it](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYUGXuTNsic)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/39 "2012-08-02T20:32:56Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Internationally, European views on sports are probably closer to the norm than U.S. views.

Look, even if the whole fucking non-U.S. world agrees, how can any view that counts soccer as an actual sport – and worse yet, calls it “football”! – be the norm?! 😉

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/40 "2012-08-02T20:33:08Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> No, I believe it’s called Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys Special Blend.

You know, “Cheese Eating” especially never made sense to me as an insult. Who doesn’t like cheese? If being a red-blooded American means I can never have any cheese, well, fuck that noise. You can steal my cheese from my cold dead hands.

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