# Why do Europeans seem so ungrateful to the US **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 2, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199 "2012-08-02T18:08:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/121 "2012-08-05T17:33:19Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > Get fucked. In France. Pourquoi tant de haine ? What did we ever do to deserve \*him \*? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/122 "2012-08-05T17:47:47Z")
> [@manila](#): > > Same reason why they have the “World Series” when there is only one country who participates and is remotely interested in it. Canada participates. You got something against Canada? I’d be willing to wager plenty of people in Latin America are interested in it. If it makes you feel better, I’m not remotely interested in baseball. Although I do respect that it’s one of one of the few mainstream professional sports one can play while actively smoking a cigar. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/123 "2012-08-05T18:04:57Z")
I think that the OP misses making the point that the US has been bearing the burden of policing the world since WWII at enormous cost to the peasants in the US in dollars and opportunity. Personally I think we should stop paying for all of this so much by ourselves. Talk about high taxes. Anyway, I disagree with the OP as the subject matters are not related. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/124 "2012-08-05T18:06:55Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > I got to see Ottawa’s tulips last year, and they’re lovely. Ah yes, I love tulips too. So, definitely let’s thanks the Dutch, especially since it costed them a lot of hardships during the tulip mania. And the Turks. People always forget to be grateful to the Turks for tulips. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/125 "2012-08-05T18:11:52Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I think that the OP misses making the point that the US has been bearing the burden of policing the world since WWII at enormous cost to the peasants in the US in dollars and opportunity. Personally I think we should stop paying for all of this so much by ourselves. The rest of the world would thank you for stopping. ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/126 "2012-08-05T18:55:51Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Pourquoi tant de haine ? What did we ever do to deserve \*him \*? ☹ Don’t you want to fight ignorance? Show him _culture_. He’ll shit his pants (actually, he’ll do that anyways). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/127 "2012-08-05T19:21:06Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > The rest of the world would thank you for stopping. Now if we could only get those US arms suppliers to agree. I think the justification for Pax Americana ended with the fall of the Soviet Union. ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/128 "2012-08-05T19:24:20Z")
> [@manila](#): > > Same reason why they have the “World Series” when there is only one country who participates and is remotely interested in it. > > But for the record I am grateful for Americans past and present. No seriously I am. MLB players come from around the world now, and the game is an institution in much of the Western Hemisphere and east Asia. But for the record I am grateful for people who know nothing about baseball talking about it “authoritatively.” No seriously I am. And I feel the same about non-footie fans. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/129 "2012-08-05T19:33:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Canada? You get to be jealous and watch. Meh, just let us know when their gone and the beaches in Florida are no longer crowded. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/130 "2012-08-05T19:41:01Z")
> [@manila](#): > > Same reason why they have the “World Series” when there is only one country who participates and is remotely interested in it. This comes as a great surprise to Canadian baseball fans. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/131 "2012-08-06T00:08:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I forgot, that’s another Republican favored way to subsidize the lifestyles of Socialists. I guess it’s easier to get 6 weeks of vacation, lavish maternity/paternity leave and free healthcare when you have American Conservatives pledging to pay much of your Defense budget. Now who’s looking stupid…silly Americans ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/132 "2012-08-06T09:28:24Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This comes as a great surprise to Canadian baseball fans. Not to mention the Toronto Blue Jays themselves, who have won the World Series twice. Personally I think the US should let the Japanese and Central American teams compete to be in the WS, but as always it’s all about the money. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/133 "2012-08-06T12:17:44Z")
Canada is still on the same continent. It’s like calling the UEFA European Football Championship the world series cup or something. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/134 "2012-08-06T15:06:23Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > But for the record I am grateful for people who know nothing about baseball talking about it “authoritatively.” No seriously I am. And I feel the same about non-footie fans. Oh, so they’re letting professional Japanese, Cuban, Korean, Colombian, and other foreign pro teams play in the World Series now, are they? Color me surprised we changed up the World Series to involve teams from around the world, rather than just qualifying pro teams from the US (plus the oddball Canadian team). I guess since MLS teams also feature foreign nationals, we can forget about that whole World Cup nonsense and rename the MLS cup the “World League Cup” instead. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/135 "2012-08-06T15:11:20Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > Don’t you want to fight ignorance? Well, yeah, but when I signed up I thought I could do that from a safe distance ! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/136 "2012-08-06T15:39:16Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > MLB players come from around the world now, and the game is an institution in much of the Western Hemisphere and east Asia. > > But for the record I am grateful for people who know nothing about baseball talking about it “authoritatively.” No seriously I am. And I feel the same about non-footie fans. “World Series” is still a ridiculous name. ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/137 "2012-08-06T17:02:33Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > …, fuck that noise… Hee hee. you made me LOL ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/138 "2012-08-14T17:21:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > “World Series” is still a ridiculous name. Fine, but my point is that the game is thoroughly international now. Can you find something more substantive to talk about than semantic tiddlywinks? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/139 "2012-08-14T17:46:19Z")
What I can’t stand is how ungrateful the French are for the time we relied on them to win our independence from England. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199/140 "2012-08-14T17:55:39Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > What I can’t stand is how ungrateful the French are for the time we relied on them to win our independence from England. Exactly! We allowed them to come over here to kick English butt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-europeans-seem-so-ungrateful-to-the-us/630199.md?page=8)