I did not mean that it was literally incestuous, I meant that this place has become a board we’re the same people interact with each other in predictable ways. You read the thread title and know exactly what posters are going to chime in and what they are going to say. It’s the same people having the same conversation and as people leave and new people don’t join, it gets worse.
Even if you didn’t know Skald’s history, the gratuitous description of the act of porn in his most recent bonerthetical betrayed the true motivation of the OP.
It’s skeevy and reading it, knowing there’s a boner behind it, really squicks me out.
I for one love this about the dope. It really saves a lot of time. I can just read thread titles and know who is going to come in and say this and who is going to come in and say that and how they are just going to start bitching at each other over the same thing they’ve been bitching at each other about for the past bunch of years about the same old bitchings.
Nobody said fighting ignorance would be easy.
Humans struggle with Hypotheticals when those questions are set up correctly to challenge the moral systems of the individual and their community. In that case, the whole point to the Hypothetical is to shine a light on areas where the individual vs. community systems are in conflict.
An evolutionary psychologist, Jonathan Haidt, has created a set of little Hypotheticals that he uses in tests across different populations and countries. He used the results to lay out an evolutionary-based model for the creation of moral systems in this book, The Righteous Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777 It is excellent.
The stories he sets up have to do with crossing taboo lines when, within the story, there are NO risks to exposure. So what if you are eating by yourself and masturbate with your food first? (yes, that is one of his Hypotheticals). His point with that one is to understand if that population of test subjects put personal freedom (to whack off wherever you want) or community moral systems first in their value set.
What he found was not only did he get insights on whether populations valued personal freedoms vs. community systems, but in many cases the folks being given the test would get VERY frustrated / angry over the Hypothetical. I can just imagine some post-doc asking some random person in a very different culture how they feel about jerking off into their food. :eek:
ETA: an article on him on Freakonomics on NPR: Jonathan Haidt Answers Your Questions About Morality, Politics, and Religion - Freakonomics
I think there are lots of things that might be done in a research setting that would be weird and inappropriate to do to random people for no reason.
What makes the description “gratuitous”?
The fact that the detailed description of the nature of the porn the character was involved in had absolutely nothing to do with the question posed, which is, would you be willing to try to talk the male character into staying with his fiancee, what would you say, and if you’re not willing, explain why. The fact that “Lindsay” was involved in porn sets up the scenario just fine. There was no need for the detailed description of what I can only describe as abuse porn, and I also find it pretty off-putting that someone would drop that in the middle of an OP without any warning up front that the post contains details that might be upsetting to some.
Agreed. The subject gave no warning of the content. I can’t believe this even has to be explained. The normalization of denigrating women around here is more disturbing every day.
This is beautiful in a squicky and disgusting way. You capture the feeling perfectly. Pass the brain bleach.
What the ever loving fuck are you doing? People are telling you why Skald’s past and his current behavior is creepy and you are defending him. Not only that, you are dismissing our statements and telling us we are wrong. You do not get to tell us we are wrong for feeling skeeved out by an odd sexual scenario in what is supposed to be a light-hearted mental puzzle.
True as far as it goes, but when the scenario is repeated variations on “If there were a nuclear bomb set to go off in New York, and the only way to get the information to defuse it is to rape a woman, would you do it? What position? Would you use a gag, or just listen to her cry?”, you start to wonder if the guy asking is all that interested in the bomb part of the question at all.
I can’t argue against someone saying that Skald’s hypotheticals are creepy or disturbing or whatever: If you were creeped out or disturbed, then your post is your cite. But I don’t think that’s why he included those details. I think it’s just because he always includes lots of details about everything. Most of those details, of course, aren’t squicky, but the non-squicky details aren’t the ones people remember.
How simple it is to not read what you find off-putting, disturbing or squicky.
it’s pretty hard to do that when it’s dropped into a post with zero indication that something of that nature would be discussed. And once you read it you can’t unread it. Where else should the responsibility lie but with the author of the post?
I don’t disagree with you. But you have been around long enough to know his posts. You have even cited his old threads. Why would you read anymore by him, if you know this?
Because, most humans don’t want to be surprised by gross lovingly detailed incest porn. If you have to post such shit here, at least put a “gross detailed incest porn “Warning in the title so it can be avoided by normal humans
Again, why is the burden on me not to read it? Several people have said they found it distasteful too. I think people are hesitant to call him our because they don’t want to get piled on by Skald’s fan club. If multiple people take issue with it, perhaps the burden of change should be on the poster who is upsetting people.
Seriously. That along with the over the top descriptions of “Lindsay”, how special and perfect and beautiful and amazing she is, then the porn thing gets thrown at us, and then the graphic details of said porn. Yeah, he’s not getting off on this at all. None whatsoever.
You’re expecting BigTard to actually read what he’s white knighting about???
Dude, he only posts To try to sound superior to someone since he such an utter, real life failure and this makes him pontificate here because when most people ignore or laugh at him, he can pretend that he’s actually won a discussion for once in his life.
How many years has he been posting this creepy shit? I don’t think we’ll be able to stop it at this late date. I do agree with all you guys. It’s bad stuff.