Again, it is bad for kids to grow up where you can’t go anywhere unless Mom drives you. In It’s a Wonderful Life, young George Bailey (living not in a city but in the vanishing typology of an old-fashioned small town) could walk to school, walk to his job at the drugstore, walk to other stores to run errands for Mom, walk to the play-area where his brother almost died, walk to his Dad’s building-and-loan, walk anyplace in Bedford Falls without bothering anyone for a lift. It helps a kid grow up faster and better. A suburban kid can only walk to close neighbors’ houses, and perhaps to a playground.
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You are confusing liberal with hipsters and yeppies.
It is hipsters and yeppies that are into the urban lifestyle and hate suburbs.
Really depends on how senior you mean- I know a fair number of people who have been living in rural or suburban areas who move to more urban areas as they get older and don’t feel comfortable driving. Most of them lived in urban areas before moving to rural or suburban areas, so they know exactly what to expect when they move back.
Sure. But everyone flees the city when civilization fails. So what’s a zombie to do?
Though it’s interesting how people revive the thread and pick up the argument without missing a beat.
And this is a little more to the point. That hipsters, “yeppies” may tend to self-identify as more “liberal” (on some issues) than the overall distribution, does not mean that the antagonism is itself politicoideological. Quite a few liberals can be found farming organic goat cheese in the countryside, or taking the kids to soccer practice in the suburbs; quite a few conservative bankers enjoy being where all the action is in the big city and wouldn’t be caught dead in a common subdivision.
…and they keep falling over the marble stones…
In Florida, retirees prefer to live in or near the cities, where the amenities are. St. Petersburg is just full of seniors. Sun City Center is about as rural as retirement communities get, and is not far from Tampa.
Sun City Center is not at all rural. What makes you think otherwise?
That was my point. It is a town in its own right, it is in the comparatively rural southern part of Hillsborough County – and that’s as rural as most retirees like to go, here.
I don’t know about that. There are lots of retirement communities in Lee County, where I once saw someone selling live hogs off of the back of a truck. That’s rural. :dubious:
Just because a county has rural areas doesn’t mean the whole county is rural- I don’t think people are selling live hogs off the back of a truck in Fort Meyers. But retirement communities are a different beast altogether. I’ve been looking for a retirement property and it’s not all that uncommon for retirement communities to have a somewhat urban feel ( small lots, all of which are located within walking distance of the various on-site amenities , either scheduled bus service or shuttle buses for shopping trips and visits to the doctor) even if they are right in the middle of a a rural or suburban area. A lot of them are nothing like living in the nearest house outside the communities borders.
I don’t know where the city boundaries are, but the hogs were between Fort Myers and RSW.
BG made the claim that Sun City Center is “as rural as most retirees like to go, here.”
That’s simply not true.
Well, I said “most.” I’ve been living in Florida a long time, and IME, most retirement communities are in or near the urban areas – not limited to the three biggest metro areas, of course, there are a lot of them around Sarasota and Fort Myers. And a lot of retirees in Zephyrhills (which is a walkable town and convenient to Tampa). Granted, there could be a lot of retirement communities way out in the countryside I don’t know about, but I’ve done a lot of driving here and there around the state over the years and I never got the impression. In Florida’s countryside, most of the old folks you’ll run into appear to be old folks who were born there, Crackers.
What offensive, disparaging term do you use for African-American old folks that were born there?
I think you’ll find old Floridians do not object to the name “Cracker.” It’s a state appellation, like “Tarheel” or “Buckeye.” Granted, it is one only ever applied to white Floridians. Essentially it means white Anglo Floridians of Southern culture whose families were living in Florida before WWII.
Wrong.
It’s racist.
It is also a word Floridians of the above description call themselves and, IME, do not object to being so called by others. Nobody ever protested books like Classic Cracker: Florida’s Wood-Frame Architecture.
And, that is the kind of Floridian you will run into in the countryside – the post-WWII immigration wave from the North mostly went to the cities and suburbs. And so do most Yankee retirees.
The word is defined as “offensive and disparaging”. Since it is only used against people of one color, it’s racist as fuck.
Just because one dictionary so defines the word does not mean it has no other, non-offensive uses. And many words with non-offensive uses are used to refer to people of only one color.
Besides, my mother came from a family like that. I claim C-word Privileges.
Why are you using racially charged language on this message board?