# Why do most people believe everything from the media

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 23, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690 "2017-06-23T16:15:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/41 "2017-06-23T19:44:22Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> Did you determine all that yourself or did you get it from CNN?

He himself makes it very easy. It’s not like there’s a whole lot of subtly and depth to what he says and tweets.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/42 "2017-06-23T19:44:46Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> The majority of the media are trying to shape opinion and are against Trump. I’ll go so far as to say they are against America. They want to keep illegals flooding us, they want to keep letting potential terrorist in, and they want to feed people crap while they do it.
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> The media are engaging in acts of terror, imo, against Americans by twisting and lying daily about what is going on in this country. So I don’t believe much in the way of news.

So tell us where we can get the unvarnished truth about Mr Trump? Because in my opinion, what he posts to Twitter does not convey a good impression of him.

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**Author:** ![miketx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@miketx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miketx)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/43 "2017-06-23T19:44:58Z")

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> [@snoe](#):
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> Am I trippin’ or is this like the third new thread asking some version of “why does the MSM suck?” this week? Must be something in the water.
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> As with the other ones, I contest the premise, and would say that “the MSM is generally and broadly trying to deceive the American people” is an extraordinary claim that requires strong evidence. JAQing off about “but how do you _knooow_ they’re not lying to you” is not evidence.

Why do you ask for evidence you will not accept? That’s a typical lib game.

Anyone paying attention can see all the twisted articles that show Trump negatively. What it is, is that you don’t want to believe it. Don’t think the media wanted Clinton to win? You don’t think the media tried to influence the election? Videos abound on youtube showing just that.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/44 "2017-06-23T19:45:21Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> Did you determine all that yourself or did you get it from CNN?

As above, I don’t watch the news very much. On the rare cases when I do watch the news, I do not watch CNN. Those observations can be made by directly observing Trump’s actions and speeches and applying some rudimentary intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/45 "2017-06-23T20:29:43Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> Did you determine all that yourself or did you get it from CNN?

You made the pit!

Post 2481. You find the thread. (lol)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/46 "2017-06-23T20:42:20Z")

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Well, **miketx** , I notice that you never answered [my question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20299649&postcount=15). You keep making all these extraordinary claims with no evidence, so I really want to know, if national mainstream media are all terrorist-supporting America-hating liars, what DO you base your belief system on?

Oh, wait, I think you may have answered that …

> [@miketx](#):
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> Videos abound on youtube …

And I’ll bet your Facebook feeds abound with stuff, too! 😃

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/47 "2017-06-23T20:49:39Z")

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I can cite specific examples of Donald Trump lying, getting caught lying, blaming the lie on someone else and repeating the lie at a later time.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/48 "2017-06-23T20:52:17Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> The majority of the media are trying to shape opinion and are against Trump. I’ll go so far as to say they are against America. They want to keep illegals flooding us, they want to keep letting potential terrorist in, and they want to feed people crap while they do it.
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> The media are engaging in acts of terror, imo, against Americans by twisting and lying daily about what is going on in this country. So I don’t believe much in the way of news.

So you come into it with an agenda and a series of Articles of Faith that you insist are true, then don’t believe anything that contradicts this? And you believe that we are all stupid for not thinking the same way? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/49 "2017-06-23T20:53:13Z")

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I didn’t know Trump’s twitter feed was part of the Mainstream Media.

But I guess, as official announcements by the President of the United States of America, they must be.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/50 "2017-06-23T20:53:31Z")

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Most believe believe the media that carries opinions they like and don’t trust the media they don’t like.

The OP has obviously heavily invested into one particular type of media and is upset that other people are into more fact based media. Which of course must be wrong just because, you know, isn’t it obvious?

The really strange thing is that such gullible people never assume that the media they like are as bad, if not worse, than the ones they do like. This is a really bizarre belief.

Even places like Fox News slam “the media” all the time. And somehow magically they aren’t “the media”.

People insecure in their beliefs go to great lengths to protect their beliefs by being in denial. “My beliefs aren’t wrong. All those other people are in league with Satan and want to destroy America! We need to do SOMETHING about these evil people.”

Secure people don’t think like this.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/51 "2017-06-23T20:57:46Z")

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> [@miketx](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > The best thing to do is get your information from a variety of sources and see if they’re all generally saying the same thing. Unless you want to believe in conspiracies, the reason they’re all in agreement is because they’re all independently reporting the same truth. I realize that can be uncomfortable if you like what Rasmussen is telling you and don’t like what all the other polls are saying. But living in an uncomfortable reality is better than living in a comfortable fantasy.
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> The majority of the media are trying to shape opinion and are against Trump. I’ll go so far as to say they are against America. They want to keep illegals flooding us, they want to keep letting potential terrorist in, and they want to feed people crap while they do it.
> 
> The media are engaging in acts of terror, imo, against Americans by twisting and lying daily about what is going on in this country. So I don’t believe much in the way of news.

So you’re going to go with the “believe in conspiracies” option. Okay, that’s your choice to make. But don’t expect that those of us who have chosen reality-based lives are going to give your views equal respect.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/52 "2017-06-23T20:58:35Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> You’re talking about Fox News, right? I agree, you really have to fact-check what they say. Most of their followers sort of vegetate and just believe what they are fed and have little talent at fact-checking, so they sort of believe whatever the nice people in fancy suits tell them to believe.

Some of them just _want_ to believe in these fictional news stories. Fox provides the echo-chamber where these people can wrap themselves in alternative facts and smug satisfaction. As well as a healthy dose of persecution complex.

> [@miketx](#):
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> Thank you. You have just proven my point about the media fed ignorant masses that swallow everything they hear from the media.

No one has to trust the media to know what a disastrous dumb fuck the man in the White House is. He communicates these facts _extremely_ clearly and directly through his own hand-selected means of communication.

[quote=“miketx, post:43, topic:789690”]

Why do you ask for evidence you will not accept? That’s a typical lib game.

Evidence? Where? It must be hiding in shame.

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**Author:** ![miketx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@miketx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miketx)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/53 "2017-06-23T21:02:18Z")

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All you have to do is look at what the media produces and you can see it.

Here is a video of the media pukes trying to influence voters.

Here's some fake media crap for you.
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REPFH2V_EYo)

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-most-people-believe-everything-from-the-media/789690/54 "2017-06-23T21:03:40Z")

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[quote=“miketx, post:53, topic:789690”]

All you have to do is look at what the media produces and you can see it.

Here is a video of the media pukes trying to influence voters.

Here's some fake media crap for you.

[/QUOTE]

Sorry but youtube videos are about the least credible forms of “evidence” in existence. About the only thing I would trust less would be random Facebook posts.

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