Slick. Thanks.
Also: picture of a wadcutter (middle round). There are a few semis that are meant to shoot these, but not many. They won’t feed properly from magazines for obvious reasons.
The film Tigerland features those cube ones intentionally. It takes place during a training exercise.
You mean the movie that managed to work in 5 or so falsehoods on guns into one statement is inaccurate :eek:
John McClane:
“That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me.” (the lowest model number is 17, is that what you mean, John?)
“You know what that is? It’s a porcelain gun” (like what they make toilets from? I think you mean polymer, and that doesn’t matter, see below)
“made in Germany.” (Austria, but 50% of people think that’s the kangaroo country, so maybe you have company)
“It doesn’t show up on your airport X-ray machines here” (it absolutely does, being mostly metal)
“and it costs more than what you make in a month!” (2016 MSRP is about $500+, they didn’t become so popular because they were expensive. But I guess the ultra-rare model 7 costs more…)
A revolver can be cocked and fired with one hand. Unless you already have on round in the pipe, its going to take two hands to be ready to fire an automatic. Motorcyclist that carry often choose a revolver for that reason.
In all my years of shooting, I’ve never shot a blank round or heard one being fired. How loud are they compared to a live round? I’ve always assumed that the gunshot sounds in movies were done in editing.
Besides shooting 44 magnum and up cartridges (reliably) and very small J-frame sized revolvers, there really arent anything a revolver can do that a quality semi can’t.
They are also more delicate in certain ways, like dropping one on the cylinder can mess up the crane/yoke tube.
Carbon build up on the front of the cylinder/forcing cone can hinder trigger pull.
Auto-loaders are easier to field strip, swap recoil springs, etc… and good ones can last for 100,000+ rounds in 9mm.
Blanks come in different loads. We used ‘full power loads’ in the Beretta, and it was about as lout as a live round. It also had that impressive flash. Back when we used AR-15s for a film, we used military blanks. No flash, and about the same ‘snap’ as a Black Cat firecracker, or maybe a ‘lady finger’. It’s been a very long time, and I don’t recall exactly, but you really wouldn’t confuse it with a live round.
Gunshots don’t usually sound like gunshots on a recording. ([Pedant] Professional film equipment doesn’t record sound, except in some special cases from decades ago. [/Pedant])
Got it in one.
The whole ‘rack the slide before you shoot’ thing is done in Hollywood because it looks cool and has a sound effect, it’s not how people usually operate. Carrying a pistol with a magazine loaded but no round chambered is just weird in most applications, and I have no idea why someone would be willing to carry a loaded revolver but only an almost-loaded pistol. Virtually all modern revolvers are double-action so will fire if you pull the trigger, leaving the hammer down doesn’t stop the gun from firing, and pistols have more and better safeties if that’s what you’re looking for.
Condition 3 aka “Israeli carry,” because that’s what the IDF supposedly asked their soldiers to do (verify?). Civilians might do it if they are uncomfortable with carrying cocked and locked or relying on the heavy trigger pull of a DAO or decocker DA/SA.
The “leaving a round out of the cylinder” thing really only applies to old single action revolvers, and wasn’t to prevent accidental trigger pull but a round being fired even when the trigger is not operated due to the design at the time.
When I carry, I don’t chamber a round. (I have a S&W M&P 40c.) I just feel more comfortable knowing that it’s that much harder to have a negligent discharge and my pistol doesn’t come with a safety.
If you’re not comfortable relying on the heavy trigger pull of a DAO or DA/SA, then why would you be OK relying on the heavy trigger pull of a DA revolver? It’s the same amount and kind of mechanical safety. I don’t doubt that there are people who give that as a reason, but it just doesn’t make sense, and really comes down to ‘they like a revolver’. It just doesn’t make sense to say "I like a revolver because it can be readied and fired one-handed if it’s in as dangerous of a condition as a pistol that can be readied and fired one handed, but if I carry the pistol in an unusual condition then it would take two hands for the pistol’.
When I first joined the CF (Cdn Forces) in '77 our service rifle was the FN C1, 7.62. Our BFAs were yellow and I think they secured onto the bayonet lug. And I was wondering how they work on a semi-auto pistol without interfering with the rack.
Cool stuff.
My CCW trainer liked to carry that way. He felt that in the event the perp grabbed the gun from you in the initial struggle you would have a few seconds before he figured out why it didn’t go bang.
Dennis
Yup.
I’ve two handguns that I would consider for self defense. A .357 Ruger and a .45 1911 Colt.
I keep the revolver ready, the 1911 is in a gun bag. It is a toss up really, but in dire conditions, I know that the revolver will fire with simply pulling the trigger. There are no safeties other than the long hard pull of the trigger. If I pull the hammer back (the only way I shoot it), I can be more accurate than the .45. The .357 has more take down power per shot than the .45 (but some will question that).
In a 6" barrel the .357 is better for me when I have to scare black bears off by shooting in a tree near the bear (it’s been a few years since I’ve had to do that, the bears where not afraid of banging posts and pans together, and I used the .357 to scare them off)
I’m a believer of hitting what you are aiming at, and hope I would never need more than 6 rounds.
My brother is a CGI tech. Because actors have died from blanks being fired at them, most gunfire in now all computerized effect. The sound has been Foley effect for a long time, but now the smoke and sometimes even the recoil is all CGI. Bullets leaving guns are CGI, and bullets entering targets are almost always CGI.
There is barely a Hollywood movie that doesn’t have some CGI in it. It doesn’t have to be sci-fi or horror. The simplest of movies stick in CGI in weird places. Sometimes things happen like a director will decide that a scene shot in a studio but meant to look outdoors needs to show the characters’ breath vapor, because it’s supposed to be chilly, so they send it off to a CGI studio. Instant vapor.
CGI has taken all the fun out of cheesy horror movies for me. I used to love B-movie gore-fests, because it was fun trying to figure out how they did some effect. Now that the answer is always “CGI,” they’re no fun anymore.
[More hijack] Ever look closely at a Clue revolver? Instead of the chamber, the barrel revolves. It was called a “pepper box.” [/hijack]
But it does come with a safety: your trigger finger, and you! 
Not necessarily. The DA trigger pull of some DAO and DA/SA semis aren’t nearly as long as that of some DA revolvers.
The military issue ones we used were a little quieter, about 20% quieter, IIRC. I was in 1980-1993, so it’s been over 20 years since I fired a blank 5.56 NATO (and probably closer to 30yrs). If they came in different strengths, I wasn’t aware of that - I didn’t order or buy the ammo, or read the box. I just fired the rounds.
Not sure if you’re asking me? Because it’s not my opinion, but others have expressed it, and some have answered here since. I think the best plan is to buy a good holster meant for that gun, and not one that vaguely fits it but might brush the safety/trigger on the way out.
.45 ACP people are a… special breed. They will make all kinds of claims.
I have a Nagant revolver. They come in single action (rare) and double action (more common) flavors. But when I first shot mine I thought I had the SA, because it wouldn’t fire when I pulled the trigger. Turns out the trigger pull is >20lbs and it is very, very, very uncomfortable to fire without cocking.