# Why do people keep confusing victim and hero? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 15, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373 "2014-10-15T03:21:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/61 "2014-10-19T12:23:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > At least we still have “diva”, right? Stop being such a hater and a bully, you hipster geek troll. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/62 "2014-10-19T20:29:52Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > There’s a women’s bike race around here being advertised called “Divas on Wheels”. Maybe I’ll send them a letter and ask what the cyclists plan to perform as they ride, because I have no idea why else the organizers would decide to use the word “diva”. Is it anything like Dykes on Bikes? 'Cos those women could be called muff divas. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/63 "2014-10-19T22:13:50Z")
I cannot believe that I agree with **Magellan01** on any issue but, on this one, he is, as is the OP, absolutely correct. Enduring hardship does not make someone a hero, regardless what the hardship is or how difficult it was to endure. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/64 "2014-10-19T23:25:00Z")
> [@JesterX](#): > > You know, the old, “potato, potato” reference just doesn’t work on a message board :eek: > > It’s simply a subjective question. I would call ANYONE who attacks an unsuspecting or defenseless person a “coward” whether they’re a terrorist or a common street thug. I would also call anyone who raises awareness of an evil person or organization (anyone like, for instance, a VICTIM, of some crime of that organization) a “hero”. > > That’s just my particular view. You don’t have to share it. Your particular view is retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/65 "2014-10-20T00:09:35Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > I cannot believe that I agree with **Magellan01** on any issue but, on this one, he is, as is the OP, absolutely correct. Enduring hardship does not make someone a hero, regardless what the hardship is or how difficult it was to endure. Yes, \*\*JesterX \*\*has managed to express an opinion so egregiously nonsensical that he has pulled together a coalition of detractors seldom seen in the same room without bloodshed. Quite an achievement, in a sense. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373/66 "2014-10-20T05:45:45Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Yes, \*\*JesterX \*\*has managed to express an opinion so egregiously nonsensical that he has pulled together a coalition of detractors seldom seen in the same room without bloodshed. Quite an achievement, in a sense. Practically heroic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-keep-confusing-victim-and-hero/701373.md?page=3)