# Why do people say the World economic forum is pushing socialist views? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 15, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610 "2024-02-15T17:17:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/101 "2024-02-19T21:59:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > No, but they are okay with the state controlling the movements of people, their buying choices, what they can drive, what drugs they must take, what they can read or watch, what they can eat… > > Call it techno-authoritarianism. Or Chinese Style state capitalism. That’s what the WEF wants. The smart people of the world running the lives of everyone else for their own good. > > Possibly the ‘socialist’ worry comes from Klaus Schwab himself (founder of the WEF), who is quoted as saying “In the future you will have no privacy, and no property. And you will like it!” > > More fascist is their push for ‘stakeholder capitalism’ and ‘ESG’ - both of which are now failing badly because they were always a bad idea. > > There’s also an element of transhumanism in the WEF. They talk about life extension, the wonders of implantable chips in the body, yada yada. I have no problem with explorations into these areas, but they cross the line by talking about implementing this stuff globally. > > One of the weird things about the WEF that hurts them is that it’s a strange amalgam of a UN-style government planning activities combined with TED-style talks by anyone willing to pony up the money to speak. So a serious conference on climate legislation is followed by a wild talk about embedding chips in people to track their Co2 or something, and people put them together as one proposal and it makes the serious stuff sound crazy too. > > But there’s plenty of crazy even from the ‘serious’ people. > > I take heart in the WEFs trajectory. Their themes in the past years were “The Great Reset”, followed by “Build Back Better”, followed by “The Great Narrative” (convincing people we need to reset and build back better), and to this year’s “Rebuilding Trust” (We tried to get them to do what we want and they hate us. Manipulating the narrative didn’t work. Now what?") > > If you thought the WEF was meaningless and has no power, go look at how many world leaders repeated the “Build back Better” slogan while selling the public on whatever spending programs they wanted… Well normally in the past socialism was about controlling capitalism and regulation. But some conservatives just say big government is socialism. In free market capitalism the government stays away and allow freedom of people and market to make the choice. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/102 "2024-02-19T22:21:20Z")
What it looks like from 30,000 feet is some Conservatives say WEF pushes a global socialist elitist agenda, some Progressives say WEF pushes a global capitalist elitist agenda. Because it comes up with things that don’t jibe with all or parts of their respective platforms. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/103 "2024-02-19T22:32:22Z")
I guess they mean climate change policies and environmental policies is left thing and socialist thing when they call the world economic forum is pushing socialist things along with ESG. > **[ESG scores similar to China's social credit system, designed to transform...](https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/esg-scores-similar-china-social-credit-system-designed-to-transform-society-think-tank-director-says)** > > Heartland Institute's Justin Haskins discussed the global ESG initiative and compared it to a social credit system used in China. And the far left and socialist don’t call it socialist thing because they want more of it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/104 "2024-02-20T00:49:05Z")
Please define what you mean by the word “socialism” Thank you in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/105 "2024-02-22T03:51:38Z")
The world economic forum does not help them self when one country after other country copies the same law. THE LATEST INSANE LAWS PASSED It strange one country after other country is copying the other country. Well jail time for discussion of medical treatment. No discussion allowed of medical treatment the government tells you what to do now. Wow just passed in France - hard to believe - a new law with 3 years jailtime and ~$50,000 fine. For dissuading anyone who is sick or at risk of medical outcome, from taking a medication or any medications. > **[Latest insane laws passed - You won't believe this!](https://www.bitchute.com/video/8h2KveWVFu6t/)** > > Ivor Cummins, February 19, 2024 > > Wow just passed in France - hard to believe - a new law with 3 years jailtime and ~$50,000 fine. For dissuading anyone who is sick or at risk of medical outcome, from taking a medication or medications. > > NOTE: It is… ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/106 "2024-02-22T04:19:17Z")
In your own words, please explain what this French law says, what it means and why it is so wrong. Also please explain what the WEF has to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/107 "2024-02-22T04:20:46Z")
For those who don’t want to watch a ten-minute video, here’s a long prose analysis of the bill. > **[French Parliament Passes a Bill Criminalising 'Incitement to Non-Treatment'](https://davidthunder.substack.com/p/french-parliament-passes-a-bill-criminalising?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=535883&post_id=141764293&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=223v10&utm_medium=email)** > > A few days ago (14th February), the National Assembly (lower house) of the French Parliament passed a Bill that criminalises certain forms of dissuasion from orthodox or “established” medical treatments, including prophylactic or preventive... The bill is designed to keep vaccine and cancer nuts from pushing people away from conventional medicine and into treatments which may kill them. This certainly has created a great deal of anxiety in the free speech community, since the bill has loose language that could conceivably be used against many different kinds of speech. I’m no expert on French law, but I believe the bill now has to go the Senate, which has the ability to amend provisions. In any case, this law has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/108 "2024-02-22T04:25:57Z")
Well it strange there been no problem in 2000s, 90s and 80s and before now it seems big pharma and big government are passing laws now and no wounder people are looking at WHO and WEF as the architect. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/109 "2024-02-22T04:28:56Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > The bill is designed to keep vaccine and cancer nuts from pushing people away from conventional medicine and into treatments which may kill them. So Chinese medicine and alternative medicine is allowed in France? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/110 "2024-02-22T04:33:16Z")
Ahh, BitChute, the place you end up when even YouTube can’t stand your bullshit any longer. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/111 "2024-02-22T04:34:22Z")
A conservative and conspiracy website allowed by the Chinese communist party YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/112 "2024-02-22T04:39:26Z")
> [@Jackson99](#): > > A conservative and conspiracy website Yes, I’m aware of the content on BitChute. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/113 "2024-02-22T04:46:56Z")
You know what was also the case in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s? Alex Trebek was still hosting Jeopardy! Bad things only started happening after he chose to leave the show. I’m sure if he returned, everything would be right with the world. Don’t agree? Prove me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/114 "2024-02-22T05:23:03Z")
> [@Jackson99](#): > > Well it strange there been no problem in 2000s, 90s and 80s and before now it seems big pharma and big government are passing laws now and no wounder people are looking at WHO and WEF as the architect. One has to remember that saying that goes: “this why we can’t have nice things”, what took place was the internet and antivaccine nut groups and extreme right ones decided that it would be a good idea to join forces. > **[How the Anti-Vax Movement Is Taking Over the Right](https://time.com/6141699/anti-vaccine-mandate-movement-rally/)** > > The anti-vaccine movement, once a fringe cohort, has repositioned itself as an opposition to mandates and government overreach. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jackson99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackson99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/115 "2024-02-22T05:29:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > One has to remember that saying that goes: “this why we can’t have nice things”, what took place was the internet and antivaccine nut groups and extreme right ones decided that it would be a good idea to join forces. But I remember the 90s and talk radio and anti big pharma use to be liberal thing back than now it is conservative thing. What we have now is internet before was talk radio AM radio. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/116 "2024-02-22T05:42:38Z")
If there is a reasonable, logical, and rational connection between the French government, the World Economic Forum, and socialism (as per the thread title), then I’d like to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/117 "2024-02-22T05:52:36Z")
And as I noted before, bullies like Rush Limbaugh did not start as an anti vaxxer, but just before he died he was so much against masks and vaccines that other right wing celebrities paid with their lifes for emulating him and other right wing dumb dumbs. What a legacy of death… > **[Dangerous transmissions: anti-vax radio shows reach millions in US while...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/21/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid)** > > Media watchdogs suggest that some basic level of responsibility to the public should be required to keep a broadcast license ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610/118 "2024-02-22T06:27:17Z")
I wonder if anything has happened recently that might be behind the shift? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-people-say-the-world-economic-forum-is-pushing-socialist-views/997610.md?page=5)