Why do people think the US is turning against Obama because of the oil spill. It's absurd.

It was Bush’s fault that he appointed a guy whose major qualification was an enthusiasm for racehorses to the FEMA post.

I’m not sure if Obama has appointed anyone to the MMS, and presumably the Republicans would have blocked his nominee anyway. He did of course appoint Ken Salazar, and I’m probably not qualified to evaluate Salazar’s performance as Secretary of the Interior - and don’t particularly like the guy anyway.

Barack Obama doesn’t care about gulf people.

Wait, why prosecute them if they are criminals? Why not just throw them in jail? You already know they are criminals. What do you need a trial for? Plus also, putting the BP criminals in jail will make the oil go away and the leak stop.

It’s perfectly rational. Conflict sells news.

News organizations don’t exist to serve anyone’s agenda. They exist to sell news.

Humans want story arcs, not endless reports of triumph. The arc, as you will recall, requires the hero to experience setbacks. Otherwise the story gets boring.

Agree with you 100% that this is a technical problem best addressed by BP, which has the expertise to fix the problem. Although in the future I’d prefer to see them plan ahead better for difficulties.

Walt

Send them to Guantanamo!

I haven’t been following this too closely but I have a couple of ideas about the OP.

First, what goes around comes around. The liberals and MSM piled on W after Katrina as if he had personally figured out a way to make the hurricane happen because he hates black people. And the biggest mistakes were made on the local level. I’m not going to write about this extensively, but the evidence is out there. There was little the feds could do in the first few days, and after those days they did what they could. And did it reasonably well. But W was treated like crap for it. And Obama has personally insulted and blamed W as much as anyone.

Second, Obama has done a lot to make things worse. I believe that he received more donations from BP than any other politician. He had more than 18 months - let’s start from the election, when he could start drawing up plans and enlisting good people - and he did not nothing to create a better regulatory system. He keeps blaming W for this mess, as he blames him for everything. That’s not what leaders are supposed to do. He keeps saying these outrageous lies, as if we all are still idiots. Like this has been his #1 priority. Really? How many days has he played golf since this broke? Then he vilifies BP and pisses off our oldest ally. Did anybody say “Smart diplomacy?”

For those who are truly liberal, i.e. open-minded, here’s a video that may help to answer the OP’s question:

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/100979/

To figure out what the sentence will be. What else?
11 people are dead. BP has done absolutely everything in their power to misdirect and/or hide and/or minimize their culpability. They’ve outright lied about the value of any dispersant and you think they’re innocent? Dude, I’ve got this bridge I’ve been trying to sell and I promise, on my sister’s virtue, I’ll give it to you for a song 'cause we’re buds and I like your looks. Let’s talk offline.

No, the oil will still be there. And it won’t stop the leak. And I’m just primitive enough to want retribution with a side order of whupass. The good feelings I get from that are certainly transient, but they’re a lot more tangible then the hope of seeing that coastline clean anytime in the next… oh…200 years?

Mebbee President Obama can give me that. Why should the GOP have all the fun?

Somebody else made the same absurd claim in a prior thread on the subject, and it turns out it’s not true. Of course, if you can offer a citation, then by all means do so.

In 18 months he’s supposed to have fixed the entire federal regulatory system?

I never said that, and as I’ve pointed out before this is a familiar bit of sophistry used by Obama and his followers: take a reasonable point to the illogical extreme and act like the person who spoke is illogical.

Mom: You got a 26 on your history test. There’s no way you studied enough.
Kid: You expect me to memorize every fact about the earth for the last six thousand years?

Obama had plenty of time to make fixes, to appoint good people and help them do their jobs.

BTW it’s possible that there’s an alternative point of view. So just for the fun of it: where’s your cite showing that it’s an absurd claim?

While the Louisiana State and Orleans Parish (local) govts. certainly dropped the ball (to say the least) in the days following Hurricane Katrina, NO ONE (of any level of credibility) who followed the unfolding events in the days after Aug. 29th 2005 believes that the federal resopnse was conducted anywhere in the ballpark of “reasonably well”…

But why do we need a trial for that? You already know exactly what they have and haven’t done, couldn’t you just decide?

Well then I guess I have no level of credibility :wink:

But, as a serious friendly question: What exactly did they do that you felt was wrong? What would you or a Dem have done differently?

Again, I’m not looking for an antagonistic positional debate. If there are specifics I’m open to hearing about them. I never said they were perfect. This is a government agency we’re talking about here.

Because that would spoil the final surprise!! (::breaking the 4th wall:: He’s going to be so *pleased *when he hears this.)

Ready? :dubious:

I also want to charge them for the actual cost of the bogus trial I propose. (Kind of like the Chinese where the government charges your family for the cost of the bullet that executes you.) I think there’s a yin-yang balance to that and art is in the details, neh? (Why yes indeedy-do; I have, in fact, given this some thought, thank you for asking. Does it show?)

But enough about me. What about you? :smiley:

Obama’s “BP” donations came from individual employees, not from BP’s PACs. I suppose “absurd” is a bit strong, but it’s certainly misleading.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201005240038

You seem to have come over all jokey all of a sudden. Why is that?

Talked to a guy today, (Work at airport) who was on that rig weeks brfore it blew-Horizon- knew one of the guys that escaped alive,…
He lives in Houston, TX —
lotta witnesses not like a “Snapped” Oxygen TV capital crime series…

More evidence of outrageous incompetence by the Obama administration:

Enough about me. What about you?

Well from an “outsiders” POV, I’m not surprised that Obama has become spineless.

When I watched your elections from afar, I wanted him to be a “good” president, but the whole thing seemed like Mr Blair (or Bliar as some of us called him) and his “coronation” in 97.

He seemed full of promise etc as well, instead what we got was a glib, smug, spineless used car salesman…

It now seems that Obama is pulling the same tricks - i.e. It’s “their” fault, not mine.

So where was the outcry looking for blame during the Exxon Valiz thing ? Or how about Bhopal ?

Sure, BP (yes, just BP, not “British Petroleum” any more - they’re a multinational that just happened to start in Britain and have an office here and are only about 40% owned by British shareholders - and employ about 3 times the number of Americans than they do Brits) are paying the bills (aren’t BP just the “leaseholders” after all ?), but that’s just PR shit after shareholder and a bit of political pressure.

How about focusing on the real villains ? The actual Rig operators and/or Halliburton ?

Nah, didn’t think so.

How hypocritical eh!