# Why do Republicans want to end the corona virus restrictions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 19, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128 "2020-04-19T16:17:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/81 "2020-04-20T20:12:58Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Again, since I’m not CofE, that’s of interest, certainly, but not binding. > … [http://www.anglicancommunion.org/](http://www.anglicancommunion.org/) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/82 "2020-04-20T21:58:45Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The gathering of the community for communal worship, as part of the Eucharist, has always been part of our liturgy. Part of it. Not the whole of it. Nor is it required daily, or even weekly. Look if your church wants to arrange things so that no one comes within 6 feet of each other that’s grand. Or if you all want to quarantine together - camp out together in the church with your Eucharist wine and wafers, but don’t leave the church building/grounds. have food and supplies delivered, so you won’t risk anyone else’s health. Or come up with something else that puts no one outside your group at risk. Have at it. But your right to worship communally ends when/where your gathering puts not just you but other people at risk. This notion that religion is being singled out is bullshit. It’s not. ALL gatherings/groups of people are being restricted right now. It’s not going to be forever. It should be until the pandemic is over. We’ve already had religious leaders who insisted on holding group worship die of this disease, along with some of their “flock”. It’s not a theoretical risk, it’s very real. Why on earth would your church insist on risking the health and lives of its congregants? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/83 "2020-04-20T22:08:50Z")
> [@Kovitlac](#): > > I also figured that’d be the case since that’s all you see in any, “Why do Republicans…” posts (because Republicans are all identical). Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. He wants to end coronavirus restrictions. It’s hardly hyperbole or a broad brush to paraphrase that as a “why do Republicans” want to do so when the leader of the party wants to do so. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/84 "2020-04-20T22:47:41Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > How do I take the Eucharist on-line? 1. Go buy yourself a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. 2. Search online for a congregation of your denomination that holds services online. 3. Prior to the service, break off a small piece of bread, and pour a sip of wine into a small cup. 4. Tune into the online service. 5. When the priest/minister/whathaveyou blesses the bread and the wine, partake. Not that challenging, really. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/85 "2020-04-20T22:48:46Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. He wants to end coronavirus restrictions. It’s hardly hyperbole or a broad brush to paraphrase that as a “why do Republicans” want to do so when the leader of the party wants to do so. Especially given how quickly the vast majority of Republicans fall in line behind him. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/86 "2020-04-20T22:56:07Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > 1. Go buy yourself a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. > 2. Search online for a congregation of your denomination that holds services online. > 3. Prior to the service, break off a small piece of bread, and pour a sip of wine into a small cup. > 4. Tune into the online service. > 5. When the priest/minister/whathaveyou blesses the bread and the wine, partake. > > Not that challenging, really. That doesn’t work for Catholics. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/87 "2020-04-20T23:13:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That doesn’t work for Catholics. :dubious: How so? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/88 "2020-04-20T23:15:29Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > 1. Go buy yourself a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine. > 2. Search online for a congregation of your denomination that holds services online. > 3. Prior to the service, break off a small piece of bread, and pour a sip of wine into a small cup. > 4. Tune into the online service. > 5. When the priest/minister/whathaveyou blesses the bread and the wine, partake. > > Not that challenging, really. Since I have shown him all the major religions allow it to be done at home or on line, why argue? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/89 "2020-04-20T23:16:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That doesn’t work for Catholics. :dubious: Well,\* the Pope\* says it works, but who is he, anyway? :p:p ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/90 "2020-04-20T23:21:35Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That doesn’t work for Catholics. :dubious: > [@Miller](#): > > How so? You’ve got to have an ordained priest say the words of consecration and do the [transubstantiation](https://study.com/academy/lesson/catholic-doctrine-of-transubstantiation-definition-lesson-quiz.html) thing. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/91 "2020-04-20T23:41:37Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You’ve got to have an ordained priest say the words of consecration and do the [transubstantiation](https://study.com/academy/lesson/catholic-doctrine-of-transubstantiation-definition-lesson-quiz.html) thing. Well, not according to this dude named Francis who wears a snazzy white hat. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/92 "2020-04-20T23:56:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That doesn’t work for Catholics. :dubious: She said she’s not a Roman Catholic or Church of England; she’s Anglican. Which I take to mean she’s in one of the formerly Episcopal churches that broke away because the Episcopalians decided that women and gays could be priests. ETA: > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You’ve got to have an ordained priest say the words of consecration and do the [transubstantiation](https://study.com/academy/lesson/catholic-doctrine-of-transubstantiation-definition-lesson-quiz.html) thing. _Two, four, six, eight, time to transsubstantiate!_ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/93 "2020-04-21T00:07:32Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > She said she’s not a Roman Catholic or Church of England; she’s Anglican. Which I take to mean she’s in one of the formerly Episcopal churches that broke away because the Episcopalians decided that women and gays could be priests. And the Anglican church the same. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/94 "2020-04-21T01:37:24Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > As to why they want that, see **TriPolar** ’s post. The top plutocrats feel they are pretty well insulated personally but stand to lose a lot, and the grasroots Useful Fools at the protest marches are buying into a call to be “…anti-anything that they don’t want, so they’ll risk their own lives and the lives of others **just to prove we ain’t the boss of them**.” Some of the super-rich think they can hide out on a New Zealand island — [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/-we-needed-to-go-rich-americans-activate-pandemic-escape-plans) > [@](#): > > **‘We Needed to Go’: Rich Americans Activate Pandemic Escape Plans** > \*Interest in New Zealand bunkers has surged. \* > … > For years, New Zealand has featured prominently in the doomsday survival plans of wealthy Americans worried that, say, a killer germ might paralyze the world. > … > Some Silicon Valley denizens have already made the move to New Zealand as the pandemic has escalated. On March 12, Mihai Dinulescu decided to pull the plug on the cryptocurrency startup he was launching to flee to the remote country. “My fear was it was now or never as I thought they might start closing borders,” said Dinulescu, 34. “I had this very gripping feeling that we needed to go.” > > … > > Four days later, New Zealand closed its borders to foreign travelers, which could thwart some refugee travel plans. Dinulescu said he has connected with about 10 people in New Zealand who made the jump before the shutdown, but “a lot of venture capital people I know were not afraid enough in time for the border close,” Dinulescu said. “And now they can’t get in.” After the shutdown was announced, however, local press reported a slight increase in private plane landings in the country. This would be a great time for a “Masque of the Red Death” moment. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/95 "2020-04-21T02:25:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ll jump in. Here’s my quick and dirty, not well-thought out, gut response: they don’t trust experts. Or science. > > “Statisticians and scientists don’t understand business. They just want to take over and tell us what to do. If they’re so smart, how come _ **I’M** _ the one who’s rich? _R0_? WTF kind of number is that and what does it have to do with my bank account and/or bottom line? THOSE are the numbers I know about and care about!” > > I’m sure some smarter people will check in soon. I think it’s a little different. I think they actually do believe the scientists and the experts who say that Trump flubbed the response. What they’re doing is creating a distraction and a shift in focus, away from Trump’s failed use of federal resources and onto individual state governors and health care officials. But beyond that, this is a coordinated act of defiance. The protestors themselves are saying that even if they believe the scientists, they’re going to defy the experts. They feel confident that, for whatever reason, they will find a way to survive. Their sense is that the headlines will shift away from the pandemic and more to the economic response. Trump will be the one championing the return to business and the libs will be the ones who are trying to keep the country in lockdown mode – the libs hate business and freedom and all that ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/96 "2020-04-21T02:45:06Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > The answer is simple. > > Trump wants to start having his Nuremberg-esque rallies again. Well, that, and his regular weekend golf game. That must be torturing him something fierce. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/97 "2020-04-21T05:58:30Z")
Substitute “supporters of this POTUS” for “Republicans” and read on. > [@Kovitlac](#): > > Oh please. This thread is littered with the likes of, “Republican don’t listen to science!” They don’t. [(cite)](https://www.amazon.com/Republican-Brain-Science-Science-Reality/dp/1118094514) > [@](#): > > They’re all rich assholes who just want the poor to starve anyway! They do. [(cite)](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trumps-new-food-stamp-rules-tell-poor-to-work-or-starve.html) [(cite)](https://www.truthdig.com/articles/cruel-and-unusual-republicans-want-poor-americans-to-starve/) > [@](#): > > They want to see people die!" They do. [(image)](http://www.electricedge.com/greymatter/images5/killliberals.jpg) > [@](#): > > …(because Republicans are all identical). Supporting this POTUS defines their cult identity. [(cite)](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/13/20992370/trump-republican-party-cult-steven-hassan) \_\_ > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The gathering of the community for communal worship, as part of the Eucharist, has always been part of our liturgy. What are the spiritual consequences of not taking communion on any particular day? > [@RTFirefly](#): > > ETA:_Two, four, six, eight, time to transsubstantiate!_ 😉 Ninja’d! > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, that, and his regular weekend golf game. That must be torturing him something fierce. He can merely proclaim himself champion again and post more reward plaques, as usual. [(cite)](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/apr/02/donald-trump-golf-28-club-championships) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/98 "2020-04-22T17:23:58Z")
Sounds like a back page advertisement in a 1920s magazine: “Carrying out the **Miracle of Transubstantiation** …via **RADIO!!!** “ ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/99 "2020-04-22T17:44:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Your right to [del]throw a punch[/del]assemble/go to church ends at [del]my nose[/del] fucking lungs. > Does that make it fucking clear? Respectfully, nobody asked you. The question is not about if Republican’s ideas are wrong. The question is “Why do Republicans want to end the corona virus restrictions?” I’m getting tired of non-pit threads where somebody asks about why republicans think the way they do, genuine answers are given, and then the answers are attacked. It happens way too much. Pretty soon you will not have any actual republicans answering questions, just democrats saying how they think what Republicans thing, with everyone agreeing on it, which is a stupidly masturbatory exercise. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128/100 "2020-04-22T17:55:39Z")
I may have missed it, but does anyone know what the shutdown is costing the Trump Organization? Since they seem to be mostly in hotels and golf courses, I can’t imagine they are doing well since supposedly they weren’t doing all that great even before the pandemic. One figure I heard, I think maybe on _The Majority Report_ with Sam Seder, was about a million per day (lost revenue and operating expenses, I imagine). Although, I’m sure Trump would never allow his personal finances to affect his governmental decisions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-republicans-want-to-end-the-corona-virus-restrictions/852128.md?page=6)