# Why do so many people dislike Japanese Animation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 12, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728 "2013-03-12T17:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/21 "2013-03-13T02:43:06Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I don’t dislike japanimation, but a lot of western anime fans (aka weeaboos) are insufferable weirdos. If you insist on subtitles instead of a dub, I don’t want to hang out. Yeah, the american voices are often bad, but guess what, so are the japanese voices (particularly some of the annoyingly shrill high pitched voices used for young women) and annoying voices I can understand trump annoying voices I don’t. > ) I’ve noticed that a lot of the time the dub dumbs down the original dialogue and removes the nuances and allusions present in the original. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/22 "2013-03-13T02:58:20Z")
> [@edwards\_beard](#): > > I’d love to get into some new anime, and if you could give some pointers as exactly where to start (the actual first episodes that were shown) with something like Ghost In The Shell or Cowboy BeBop, it would greatly improve the chance that I"d tune in. There are a number of threads on this board that you could review. 2011: [Mature/Intelligent Anime](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=606804) 2010: [Why is anime so popular in the West?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561627) 2012: [What’s the Best Anime Series out there?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-658994.html) 2010: [I’ve read the manga, should I watch the anime?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-566663.html) 2011: [Recommend your favorite anime](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-604779.html) 2009:[Looking for really good anime](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-511745.html) > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Also, Japanese anime leveled up a couple of notches after around 1995 (c. Evangelion). If I had to limit myself to pre-1995 material, I would be a very occasional consumer, not a fan. I noticed the older threads tend to be more movie-heavy, probably because older TV anime isn’t as good. There are also more misses among the recommendations in these threads, IHMO: 2004: [I’m looking for anime](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-237148.html)! 2002: [Anime suggestions for near first time viewer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-138495.html). Despite the promising thread title a lot of the stuff mentioned is pre-1995 and not as good IMHO. Then again, I haven’t gotten around to watching most of it: I’ve never seen Maccros, Robotech, Gaiking, Dangard Ace (Planetary Robot Dangard Ace), Starvengers (Getter Robo G), Grandizer (UFO Robot Grendizer), Spaceketeers (Starzinger), Battle Of The Planets or even Gundam. Though I’m guessing that most of those from ed’s list are of the mecha varietal. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/23 "2013-03-13T03:17:16Z")
> [@edwards\_beard](#): > > I’d love to get into some new anime, and if you could give some pointers as exactly where to start (the actual first episodes that were shown) with something like Ghost In The Shell or Cowboy BeBop, it would greatly improve the chance that I"d tune in. There’s a couple of new things out you may not have heard of: [The Internet Movie Database](http://www.imdb.com/) Don’t let the name fool ya. It has TV shows, too. [Amazon.com](http://www.amazon.com/) A huge on-line shopping service, where you may literally finde everything from soup-to-nuts. The underlined words with the blue font are links; you may click (or double-click) on them to be taken to these new, interesting websites. The IMDB, being a database, is searchable; you type in the name of the actor or show you are interested in learning about, hit enter, and the information is displayed on your computer monitor. [Seriously, Cowboy Bebop original release is on a six-disk set, called “sessions,” numbered 1 thru 6.](http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Sessions-Collection-Amazon-com-Exclusive/dp/B00007LLIV/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1363143701&sr=8-10&keywords=cowboy+bebop) [It was re-released as a complete boxed set called “Remix.”](http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Bebop-Remix-Complete-Collection/dp/B00102FF7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363143856&sr=8-1&keywords=cowboy+bebop) [There is even the “Perfect Sessions” boxed set which has the six episode disks plus the soundtrack disk.](http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Bebop-Perfect-Sessions-Complete/dp/B00005QCW4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1363143903&sr=8-7&keywords=cowboy+bebop) Then there’s the movie, “Stairway to Heaven,” that takes place bewteen eps. 22 & 23. The movie is not necessary to the series continuity, and may be skipped. It’s alright in and of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Trick\_Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Trick\_Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trick_Rider)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/24 "2013-03-13T03:26:20Z")
I’m in basically the same boat as the OP, not a huge fan but certainly receptive. There’s some really good stuff out there. > [@stegon66](#): > > As a zombie fan I tried to get into High School of the Dead but the leering treatment of the female characters quickly got old. Never thought I’d say that but there ya go. I definitely agree with this. I think this may be the kind of series that a lot of North American consumers have seen and get their ideas of “what anime is like” from. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/25 "2013-03-13T03:35:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I think a big part of it was the dire state of American animation in the '80s. I was born in '75, and as a kid, I loved _G.I Joe_ and _Transformers_ and all of that stuff. But even at the time, I was aware of the fact that there was a significant amount of pandering going on. Take _G.I. Joe_, for instance: despite being about a heavily armed military organization that regularly engaged in large-scale battles with a ruthless terrorist organization, no one ever died. Oh, it started earlier than that. I was born in '66, so did most of my cartoon watching in the '70s. Even as a kid, watching shows like _Superfriends_, it dawned on me that the “good guys” were always fighting exactly the same “bad guys”. Not only that, but the good guys group seemed to exist purely to stop this specific group of bad guys, while the bad guys entire purpose seemed to be, not trying to take over the world or get rich, but trying to kill these specific good guys. I didn’t know the term “circular argument” when I was a kid, but I sure recognized it. Really, I think the appeal of anime and the following improvement in American cartoons was rooted in the same change that happened to comic books. Simply put, the adult creators thought kids were too stupid to follow along across multiple issues/episodes. When comic books were new, the adults making them figured, “this is for kids”, and didn’t follow any kind of continuity. So stories would completely contradict other stories that had been published earlier, characters would have specific superpowers in one issue that were never seen again, peripheral characters’ names would change for no apparent reason. But who cares, kids will never notice. Except they did. Years later DC and Marvel (but mostly DC, since they’d been around much longer) were forced to straighten out continuity and try to plausibly explain away contradictions, which is what led to DC’s whole “multiple Earths” mess that they tried to clean up in the 1980s. The Harry Potter books are another example of adult “experts” thinking they understand kids when they really don’t. According to a [Cracked.com](http://Cracked.com) article: > [@](#): > > The first several publishers she tried rejected it outright, all for the same reason: It was far too long for a children’s book. Now, we feel it’s important to interject here that, at 320 pages for the U.S. paperback edition, the first book is the shortest of the kajillions-sold series, with Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix topping out at close to three times that length. So not only was 320 pages not too much for the fragile brains of modern children, but they read six other, longer episodes – 4,224 pages to be exact. > > Anyway, deciding that she needed an agent, Rowling thumbed through a directory and chose Christopher Little because the name sounded like a character in a children’s book. She shipped her manuscript off to Little’s office, where it met a familiar fate: An assistant tossed it straight into the rejection pile because Little thought that children’s books didn’t make any money. Again, it’s understandable if maybe you don’t anticipate that this child wizard story would ultimately make more money than the gross domestic product of Bolivia, but it seems like it would still occur to someone that it was worth putting the thing into print just to see what would happen. > > Eventually fate (or possibly a curse on Rowling’s part, we’re not sure) intervened when Rowling’s illustrations caught the eye of Little’s assistant while she was sending out the rejections. She convinced Little, who signed Rowling on … at which point publishers continued to reject Harry Potter. Finally, Little shipped it off to Bloomsbury Publishing, where chairman Nigel Newton agreed to look at it as a personal favor. > > Newton then did something that apparently never occurred to other children’s book publishers, which was to _show it to an actual child_. He offhandedly tossed the manuscript to his 8-year-old daughter, who devoured it in hours and came back to him demanding more. Only at that point did someone finally decide, “Eh, let’s put some copies out there. Who knows, maybe this will make us all enough money that we can each live on an island made of gold.” > Read more: [5 Hilarious Reasons Publishers Rejected Classic Best-Sellers | Cracked.com](http://www.cracked.com/article_20285_5-hilarious-reasons-publishers-rejected-classic-best-sellers.html#ixzz2NO4Nlrot) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/26 "2013-03-13T03:38:54Z")
I like good animation. I’ve yet to see Japanese animation I’d consider good. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/27 "2013-03-13T04:28:44Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Big eyes. Screechy voices. Stupid cuts. Over wrought dialogue. Bad frame rate. Stupid plots. Stupid hair. Kid heros. Watching a supposedly adult movie or show which still looks like Pokemon. No subtlety in plot, acting or animation. Bingo, this is me. I’ll also add: Lots of gasps. Shivering sweat. Open mouths with no teeth. Only three facial expressions. Running with their arms out sideways. Shitty pacing. No comic timing. Obsession with giant robots, monsters with tentacles, and small spaceships that fit together into a bigger spaceship. If it only had one or two things I didn’t like I could get past it and enjoy it for what it is. But as there is almost nothing for me to like _AT ALL_, then they can all just bugger off. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/28 "2013-03-13T05:08:59Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Really, I think the appeal of anime and the following improvement in American cartoons was rooted in the same change that happened to comic books. Simply put, the adult creators thought kids were too stupid to follow along across multiple issues/episodes. Well that’s reasonable, as network TV shows typically didn’t have much cross-episode continuity. Soap operas were the exception that proves the rule: they invariably had long segments where the characters would stare off in space and give an awkward narration of what has happened. Anime doesn’t do that, except sometimes during a single recap episode preceding the finale, which may occur after multiple seasons. They figure that their audience can work things out on their own. Drama is about change. TV is about things staying the same. So the relationship between the different characters is typically reset at the end of each US TV episode. Once you permit cross-episode continuity then you have access to such innovations as _beginning, middle and end_. It’s really ok if a show you like ends or if your favorite character dies. You see, just because the character is offed _doesn’t mean that the creators can’t make another show you like_. Anyway what I’m trying to say is that my point of comparison isn’t He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. It’s your typical TV sitcom. For me -and this is a personal preference- I find even the good ones somewhat tiresome. What character development exists is a matter of millimeters or occasionally a twist between whole seasons. Here’s a decent example. [Spice and Wolf](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_and_wolf). Yeah, the main character’s eyes are large: it’s thought to be expressive. Deal with it. The show is about the adventures of a young medieval merchant and the once local goddess who he escorts back to her old homeland. The show touches on medieval economics, religious and guild politics and of course an emerging romance. I’d watch maybe 4 episodes at a time: in between DVD rentals it gave me things to think about because, you know, the plot advanced and I could reasonably wonder what would happen next. More generally I tried to work out how the heroine could be so bitchy yet somehow attractive at the same time. Not my favorite show actually, but one I liked. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/29 "2013-03-13T05:28:37Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Deal with it. One of the happy conveniences of being an adult is that we don’t _have_ to “deal with” something we don’t like. We can just call it crap and write it off. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/30 "2013-03-13T05:34:51Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > One of the happy conveniences of being an adult is that we don’t _have_ to “deal with” something we don’t like. We can just call it crap and write it off. “Crocodile” Dundee: “Oh, yeah—I remember television from way back. I saw it at a buddy’s house one time.” [turns on the set and sees an “oldies re-run” of an “I Love Lucy” show pop up on the screen] “Yup…that’s what I saw that time.” [turns TV off] ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/31 "2013-03-13T05:42:11Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > One of the happy conveniences of being an adult is that we don’t _have_ to “deal with” something we don’t like. We can just call it crap and write it off. I’d like to back peddle a bit, because I agree with your point. Like I said upthread, both Hollywood and Japan have odd conventions. I can’t really say that the latter are better as a whole, only that I overdosed on the former long ago. I’m the odd egg here, which is ok: Hollywood’s formulas are astonishingly successful. I confess that I _suspect_ that if I was born in Japan I’d get sick of their stuff after a while and look abroad. Sort of embarrassing, really. Like **GuanoLad** said there’s a lot to adapt to when watching a work from a land with different traditions. But for me that’s what gives it a jolt. Wiring. Since I have the podium, I’ll note that I can’t comment on Bryan Ekers’ criticism of Japanese animation in post 26, as I don’t know what he considers good animation. Cinderella? The Simpson’s? Wallace and Grommit? All have their strong points (and I’m fond of the latter 2) but their virtues are pretty diverse. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/32 "2013-03-13T06:04:05Z")
Well, my specific objections with the uniform style of Japanimation (as I still enjoy calling it) as it generally finds its way to the west have already been touched on by other users - lousy movement, on-off mouth syncing (i.e. “talking” being just rapidly alternating between character-mouth-open and character-mouth-closed), starkly limited character design… I’m fully prepared to buy that other styles exist in Japan and are simply not being exported, but so far it’s like I can pick a random Japanese toon from 2005 and another random Japanese toon from 1994 and the characters will look and move identically, albeit one might have green hair and one might have blue hair. Plus there’s way too much sheer incomprehensibility, but I’m willing to write that off as 30 years of consistently poor translation. I guess that’s really the turn-off for me, since I’m okay with even poor animation if the writing is good. If one were to update _The Real Ghostbusters_, for example, I’d say fix the (Japanese-influenced) animation but for the most part, leave the scripts alone except to excise Slimer with extreme prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/33 "2013-03-13T07:10:36Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > but so far it’s like I can pick a random Japanese toon from 2005 and another random Japanese toon from 1994 and the characters will look and move identically, albeit one might have green hair and one might have blue hair. Well, here’s one from 2004 and one from 1995. How’s that for ya…? Hey! And no blue hair, even! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/34 "2013-03-13T11:47:33Z")
To everyone who says all japanese animation looks the same: [modestmango: im sorry but when people say all... - Tumbl'n with Kt](http://ktshy.tumblr.com/post/42901796187/modestmango-im-sorry-but-when-people-say-all) ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/35 "2013-03-13T12:30:24Z")
I seem to have been a fan of Japanese Animation when I was between three and seven years old, as I have strong memories of Gigantor and Speed Racer on the TV during the ‘60s. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/36 "2013-03-13T13:08:26Z")
I was very young when I saw Speed Racer so I didn’t understand at the time what I found off-putting. Now I recognize it as aspects of Japanese animation style. ---
**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/37 "2013-03-13T13:30:18Z")
Because most people are quick to judge, see one or two things from a huge pool of material, pick on a couple of similarities than they don’t like, and write off the entire medium (MEDIUM. Not Genre. Japanese Animation spans just about every genre you can imagine and some that you probably can’t.) I think all the suggestions that “it all looks the same” have been refuted by now without me needing to contribute any examples. also, super kudos to **Ranchoth** for an extremely deft Crocodile Dundee reference. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/38 "2013-03-13T13:41:47Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Because, 85 years after _[Steamboat Willie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamboat_Willie)_, the Japanese still have not figured out how to animate mouth movements to a pre-recorded soundtrack. Even Miyazaki animates first and dubs the voices after. It’s not _style_, it’s **stupid**. Couple that with the excessively limited frame rates, abuse of walk cycles, an apparent cultural inability to animate naturalistic human or animal motion (the “pickle up the butt” walk), freakishly exaggerated mouth movements, “Bambi eyes”, etc. > > And yes, I have seen _Spirited Away_ with sub-titles. The mouths weren’t in sync even in the original Japanese. Point of order – The animated movie “Akira” (1988) was dubbed first and drawn afterwards, indeed adjusting mouth movements to the pre-recorded soundtrack. Some post-1987 or so Japanese animated works have gone this way, others haven’t (most likely due to budget considerations). ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/39 "2013-03-13T13:45:02Z")
There is a lot of variety in the art styles and the genres of anime. Someone who says they dislike anime across the board has probably never been exposed to much of it or maybe they are not open to giving ANY animated material, that is outside the mainstream, a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728/40 "2013-03-13T14:52:17Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > There’s a couple of new things out you may not have heard of: > > [The Internet Movie Database](http://www.imdb.com/) Don’t let the name fool ya. It has TV shows, too. > > [Amazon.com](http://www.amazon.com/) A huge on-line shopping service, where you may literally finde everything from soup-to-nuts. > > The underlined words with the blue font are links; you may click (or double-click) on them to be taken to these new, interesting websites. The IMDB, being a database, is searchable; you type in the name of the actor or show you are interested in learning about, hit enter, and the information is displayed on your computer monitor. Really? Someone says they want to know some good animes the start with and \*this \*is how you respond? > [@TBG](#): > > but a lot of western anime fans (aka weeaboos) are insufferable weirdos. Apparently so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-so-many-people-dislike-japanese-animation/652728.md?page=3)