# Why do some people hate Matt Drudge?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 14, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063 "2006-12-14T02:37:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/21 "2006-12-16T06:26:53Z")

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So “no” to “are we winning in Iraq” does NOT mean “we are losing in Iraq” but “I’m as gay as a treeful of parrots?” Just checking. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/22 "2006-12-16T06:38:30Z")

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[QUOTE=dropzone]  
So “no” to “are we winning in Iraq” does NOT mean “we are losing in Iraq” but “I’m as gay as a treeful of parrots?” Just checking. :rolleyes:  
[/QUOTE]

😕 ugh

so he’s double secret liberal posing as a shill for the right wing who doesn’t want him anyway

I think I have a headache

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/23 "2006-12-16T06:48:03Z")

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[QUOTE=duffer]  
I was wondering the same thing. I thought it wasn’t supposed to matter. Did the rules change again? Man, it’s hard to keep track.  
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Funny, I thought **daffyd** answered that in post #13. As did, hm, **Carnac the Magnificent!** in post #4.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/24 "2006-12-16T14:29:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Daffyd]  
Nope… If he was secretly Gay and wasn’t working against the Gay community, then most of us wouldn’t care… But he is actively promoting and working against the rights of Gays and Lesbians…

He’s a slimeball.  
[/QUOTE]

In what way is he working against the gay community? In my limited experience with him I have heard him on both the left and right side of social issues, leaning more towards libertarian than anything else (except on abortion which he is against). If you have other information, share it.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/25 "2006-12-16T15:04:59Z")

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Wasn’t it Drudge who broke the “Kerry is having an affair with an intern” rumor?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/26 "2006-12-16T15:09:07Z")

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[QUOTE=mstay]  
Stop trying to whoosh us, **Duffer**.  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, and Verne Troyer just slam dunked. :eek:

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/27 "2006-12-16T15:12:02Z")

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[QUOTE=AtomicDog]  
Wasn’t it Drudge who broke the “Kerry is having an affair with an intern” rumor?  
[/QUOTE]

Drudge breaks lots of rumors. That’s why you shouldn’t actually believe anything you read on his site until you see it corroborated on an actual **news** site.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/28 "2006-12-16T18:56:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Drudge breaks lots of rumors. That’s why you shouldn’t actually believe anything you read on his site until you see it corroborated on an actual **news** site.

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

I don’t believe anything that Drudge says. It’s just that all the right-wing ranters on talk radio referred back to Drudge when hyping the story.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/29 "2006-12-16T20:09:51Z")

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So, just how biased and extreme is Drudge. Well, let’s look at his site and see. Here are the articles available on Drudge as of 11:00 PST.

Iran Offers Nuke Tech to Middle Eastern Neighbors…  
UKRAINE BABIES IN STEM CELL PROBE  
Officials: Edwards to Enter 2008 Race…  
REPORT: Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh Decides Not to Seek Democratic Nomination for President…  
Germ Outbreak Reported at L.A. Hospital…  
UPDATE: Million+ in Northwest could be in dark for days…  
Miami reinvites Tancredo; 2nd Rotary Club offers lawmaker a forum after ‘Third World’ remark…  
WARNING ON ‘FAT’ CLOTHES: Obesity warning on clothing suggested…  
Troubled ‘American Pie’ Actress Threatened to ‘Sexually Molest Neighbor’s Dog’…  
Man with no pulse considered a medical breakthrough…  
PAPER: The Mendacity Of the Liberal Press and DRUDGE…  
Lab chief: Duke DA said don’t report all DNA data…  
PUBLISHING GURU JUDITH REGAN LET GO FROM MURDOCH EMPIRE…  
Fire on Plane Forces Landing in Colorado…  
Incoming NYT Ed Page Editor Says ‘Its Becoming Likely’ Paper Will Call for Troop Withdrawal from Iraq…  
Ex-Rep. Barr Quits GOP for Libertarians…  
PRINCE CHARLES: CLIMATE CHANGE ‘BIGGEST THREAT’…  
Highest winter temperature ever recorded in Moscow…  
Bush: Mary Cheney to be a ‘fine mom’…  
FLASH: Will Smith’s ‘Pursuit Of Happyness’ #1 Friday; ‘Eragon’ #2, ‘Charlotte’s Web’ #3; Mel Gibson’s ‘Apocalypto’ Falls to 5th…  
HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: ‘ROCKY’ RAVE, ‘DEFIES ALL EXPECTATIONS’…  
VARIETY: ‘Surprisingly satisfying third-act heavyweight bout’…  
Vegetarians are more intelligent, says study…  
SHOCK: Student Accused Of Putting Semen In School Food…  
Principal’s Letter Home: ‘There is no tactful way to give you this information’…  
Official Says Fla. Execution Was Botched…  
SOURCES: FORMER PRESIDENT GERALD FORD’S HEALTH TAKES TURN FOR THE WORSE… DEVELOPING…  
Hundreds Detained Ahead of Anti-Government Rally in Moscow…  
RUSSIAN RIOT POLICE DOMINATE… PHOTOS…  
Poisoned spy ‘had information on Kremlin figure’…  
Ahmadinejad: ‘No country in the world looks upon America as a friend’…  
HUNDREDS SICK FROM OLIVE GARDEN IN INDIANA…  
INDIANS HUNT DOWN KILLER ELEPHANT NAMED AFTER OSAMA BIN LADEN…  
Diabetes breakthrough; Toronto scientists cure disease in mice…  
Matt Damon: Maybe Bush twins should go to Iraq…  
Vienna to get gender-equal traffic and exit signs…

Clicking on those links you go to articles provided by:  
Drudge: 2, [Breitbart.com](http://Breitbart.com): 7, BBC: 1, MyWay: 5, Denver Post: 1, UPI: 1, CBS2Chicago: 1, The Smoking Gun: 1, Yahoo News: 2, National Post (Canada): 1, Daily Mail (UK): 1, Reuters: 2, Globeand [mail.com](http://mail.com) (UK): 1, Time/CNN: 1, The NY Sun: 1, The News Observer: 1, [AccessNorthGA.com](http://AccessNorthGA.com): 1, PNA: Russian News Information Agency: 1, LA Weekly: 1, The Hollywood Reporter: 1, Variety:1, The Evening Standard (UK): 1

His front page offers direct links to: (sorry about the length)  
AP WORLD  
AP NATIONAL  
AP WASHINGTON  
AP BUSINESS  
AP ENTERTAINMENT  
AP ON THE HOUR  
AP HEADLINES  
AP BREAKING  
AP/REUTERS PHOTO WIRE  
AP AUDIO  
ANANOVA  
BLOOMBERG  
BUSINESS WIRE  
DOW JONES  
EFE  
INDO-ASIAN NEWS SERVICE  
INTERFAX  
ISLAMIC REPUBLIC WIRE  
ITAR-TASS  
KYODO  
MCCLATCHY [DC]  
PRAVDA  
PRESS ASSOCIATION  
PR NEWSWIRE  
[SHOWBIZ] PR WIRE  
SCRIPPS HOWARD  
US INFO WIRE  
U.S. NEWSWIRE  
WENN SHOWBIZ  
XINHUA  
WORLD FRONT PAGES  
LOCAL NEWS BY ZIPCODE  
TV RATINGS  
MOVIE BOXOFFICE RESULTS  
ABCNEWS  
ABCNEWS THE NOTE  
AD AGE DEADLINE  
AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE  
BBC  
BBC AUDIO  
BILLBOARD  
BOSTON GLOBE  
BOSTON HERALD  
BROADCASTING & CABLE  
CBS NEWS  
C-SPAN SCHEDULE  
CHICAGO TRIB  
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES  
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE  
CNN  
CNN TRANSCRIPTS  
DAILY VARIETY  
D.C. DAYBOOK  
E!  
ECONOMIST  
EDITOR & PUBLISHER  
EMIRATES TODAY  
EMERGENCY NET  
EMPIRE [MOVIES]  
ENT WEEKLY  
FINANCIAL TIMES  
FORBES MAG  
FOX NEWS  
GAWKER  
HELLO!  
HILL  
H’WOOD REPORTER  
HUFFINGTON POST  
HUMAN EVENTS  
INSIGHT MAG  
INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIB  
INVEST BUS DAILY  
JERUSALEM POST  
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW  
LA DAILY NEWS  
LA TIMES  
LEXISNEXIS NEWS

> **[Lucianne.com News Forum](https://www.lucianne.com/)**
>
> Lucianne.com News Forum

MEDIA CHECK  
MEDIA LIFE  
MEDIA WEEK  
MSNBC  
MUCHMUSIC  
NATION  
NATIONAL ENQUIRER  
NATIONAL REVIEW  
NEW REPUBLIC  
NY DAILY NEWS  
NY OBSERVER  
NY POST  
NY TIMES  
NEW YORKER  
NEWSBUSTERS  
NEWSBYTES  
NEWSMAX  
NEWSWEEK  
N. KOREAN NEWS  
PEOPLE MAG  
PHILLY INQUIRER  
PHILLY DAILY NEWS  
R & R  
REASON MAG  
ROLL CALL  
SKY NEWS  
SLATE: PAPERS  
SMOKING GUN  
STAR  
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD  
TIME MAG  
TMZ  
TELEVISIONWEEK  
TV SHOPTALK  
[U.K.] DAILY MAIL  
[U.K.] DAILY MIRROR  
DAILY RECORD  
[U.K.] EVENING STANDARD  
[U.K.] EXPRESS  
[U.K.] GUARDIAN  
[U.K.] INDEPENDENT  
[U.K.] NEWS OF THE WORLD  
[U.K.] STAR  
[U.K.] SUN  
[U.K.] TELEGRAPH  
[U.K.] TIMES  
US NEWS  
USA TODAY  
VILLAGE VOICE  
WASH POST  
WASH TIMES  
THE WEEK  
WEEKLY STANDARD  
WORLDNETDAILY  
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE  
AFP INTERNATIONAL  
AFP NEWS WRAP  
REUTERS WORLD NEWS HIGHLIGHTS  
REUTERS DIGEST  
REUTERS WORLD  
REUTERS POLITICS  
REUTERS ODD  
UPI ALL  
UPI WORLD

I won’t list all the writers linked to on his frontpage, but here are some of the right wingers:

Elanor Clift, Joe Conason, David Corn, Rosie O’Donnell, Molly Ivins, Andrew Sullivan, Thomas Oliphant, Helen Thomas, Paul Krugman, Mickey Kaus, Michael Kinsley, Joe Klein, Richard Cohen, Jonathan Alter, David Brooks, and Susan Estrich.

According to Wiki, Drudge admits to being a conservative on most issues. Also from Wiki:

> [@](#):
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> Nonetheless, a UCLA political scientist published a study of media bias in December 2004[14] which found – based on a comparison of articles linked to by Drudge with Congressional voting records – that the Drudge Report leans “left of center, compared to the average American voter”, which the researcher ascribed to the study’s design, based as it is on links to other news sources, rather than the handful of news stories written by Drudge himself.[15] Drudge shows a fondness for apolitical stories heavy on news drama (the path of an oncoming hurricane) or the tabloid-bizarre (the birth of an exceptionally heavy baby), or, curiously, events in Las Vegas, Nevada.

So, yes, he is hated. But it seems only like people on the far left. And even some of them see the value of his website and contribute to it. Wiki has some negative quotes from Keith Olberman and others for those who are interested.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/30 "2006-12-16T20:48:16Z")

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“According to wiki,” is like saying “According to book.” The name of the website you probably got those links is called Wikipedia. It is one of millions of Wikis.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/31 "2006-12-16T20:49:19Z")

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er… I meant to say, the website where you got those QUOTES is called wikipedia.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/32 "2006-12-16T23:29:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Drudge breaks lots of rumors. That’s why you shouldn’t actually believe anything you read on his site until you see it corroborated on an actual **news** site.  
-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

The problem is that “news” sites will quote him without any checking. That’s not corroborating, that’s just an echo chamber.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/33 "2006-12-17T01:07:43Z")

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Wasn’t it Drudge who broke the “Kerry is having an affair with an intern” rumor?

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/34 "2006-12-17T01:09:10Z")

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Ignore that last message. My browser went crazy just now.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/35 "2006-12-17T04:01:11Z")

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All I know is if I google Matt Drudge is a Tool I get 411,000 hits.

Here’s the Salon article about the Kerry rumor. “Drudge freely admitted that Republican operatives had given him the story and that he had been used. It is his usual method.”

[http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2004/02/19/kerry/index.html](http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2004/02/19/kerry/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/36 "2006-12-17T04:57:45Z")

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Roy Cohn he ain’t. There will probably never be another Cohn, if there’s a God, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Aquila\_Be](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@Aquila\_Be](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquila_Be)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/37 "2006-12-17T06:34:31Z")

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[QUOTE=dropzone]  
So “no” to “are we winning in Iraq” does NOT mean “we are losing in Iraq” but “I’m as gay as a treeful of parrots?” Just checking. :rolleyes:  
[/QUOTE]

The quote by **Squink** from the link in post #20 was truncated. What Gates continued on to say was:

> [@](#):
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> Lucianne, of course, pointed out that Mr. Gates went on to say we’re not losing, either. His exact words were: “Our military forces win the battles that they fight; our soldiers have done an incredible job in Iraq. And I’m not aware of a single battle that they have lost. And I didn’t want my comments to be interpreted as suggesting that they weren’t being successful in their endeavors.”  
> Mr. Gates, you can be 100% certain that everything you say from now on as secretary of defense will be misinterpreted by a certain New York publication headed by Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/38 "2006-12-17T09:36:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
All I know is if I google Matt Drudge is a Tool I get 411,000 hits.  
[/QUOTE]

Learn how to use Google. “Matt Drudge is a Tool” gets exactly \*six \*hits.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/39 "2006-12-17T16:08:02Z")

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Because He Has A Fondness For Typing Entirely In Capital Letters.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-some-people-hate-matt-drudge/384063/40 "2006-12-17T16:09:03Z")

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Damn. Anti.shouting feature. Let me try that again.

BECAUSE HE HAS A FONDNESS FOR TYPING ENTIRELY IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

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