# why do the Iraqi protesters want us to leave?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 18, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-iraqi-protesters-want-us-to-leave/169608 "2003-04-18T18:21:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-iraqi-protesters-want-us-to-leave/169608/41 "2003-04-21T06:32:08Z")

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> Because those are different people?

They were have to be, the ones cheering all seem to be the same guy 🙂

[http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/04/cartoons/cartoon3.html](http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/04/cartoons/cartoon3.html)

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-iraqi-protesters-want-us-to-leave/169608/42 "2003-04-21T06:33:21Z")

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I hate not being able to edit

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-iraqi-protesters-want-us-to-leave/169608/43 "2003-04-21T07:39:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kniz \*  
> \*\*Actually, Collounsbury says that Iran is presently in better shape than any other country in the region. They have been under an Islamic republic since the late '80s and the seeds of democracy have grown there. Now the majority of the people are too young to remember the Shah of Iran or about taking American hostages. They are getting tired to the Ayatollahs methods of ruling and change is in the air. The lesson is that they did it themselves and free from any of our help. We do not need to force democracy on Iraq, because it will either fail or have to be supported by us (which is the same as failure).
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> Also the Kuwaitis do not know how to do anything, since they are paid by the state and all work is done by workers from other countries. \*\*

Well, let me clarify.

I feel that Iran has some healthier grass-roots civil society development than just about any other country, including grass-roots development of real democratic habits.

Better shape than any other country is abit too broad a statement.

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