# Why do the ones I like never like me. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 15, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981 "2002-08-15T05:41:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/41 "2002-08-16T22:24:12Z")
Hey **Badazz** - You say: > [@](#): > > No more of this serious B/S. Followed by: > [@](#): > > You wanna get married??? Damn women and their mixed signals! šŸ˜‰ Seriously though, it sounds like someone lost a good one when he gave up you. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/42 "2002-08-17T04:18:17Z")
hey, dude, methinks that this chick ainā€™t at her cottage like someone says. your op has smell of a loser chick with you being in the infatuation mode. kick this one off. she ainā€™t doin you no favorsā€¦ appended is a link with some great articles for victims just such as yourself. [http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith/41\_dating\_advice.html](http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith/41_dating_advice.html) ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/43 "2002-08-17T04:22:14Z")
stop! that curt smith guy is some lightweight. not as good as this guyā€¦ > **[Dating](https://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_100/141_relationship_expert.html)** > > AskMen's Dating channel offers you all the advice you need to become a Better Man in romance and relationships. better link, same site ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/44 "2002-08-17T05:25:28Z")
**BadAzz** and **handsomeharry** , stop it! Youā€™ll just discourage him, and he may very well get a date with her. How many times could something have worked out, but didnā€™t, because some guyā€™s friends were hanging on the sidelines shooting the whole thing down? ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/45 "2002-08-17T11:43:23Z")
Iā€™ve read the good Docā€™s advice before, and I do agree with a lot that he has to say. However, he makes the whole ā€œdegree of loveā€ thing more complex than it has to be. How many guys are actually going to be able to read his book, then use all of these principals in real life? You canā€™t change your whole personality (unless your a real jerk or a crybaby) in order to get a date. If you try, you will just come across as a fraud. Although I seriously wanna try his ā€œwingmenā€ theory sometime! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![BadAzzBec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@BadAzzBec](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BadAzzBec)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/46 "2002-08-17T16:55:00Z")
Hey HandsomeHarry, why donā€™t you stop being a typical male asshole? Itā€™s guys like you that gives males a bad name. Iā€™m a little disgruntled with your sex right now anyway. How many times have you been used for sex for three months, then dumped unexpectedly? Yeah, thats what I thought. You never get anywhere unless you take chances!!! Maybe D12 is some hottieā€¦ sounds nice enough to me! ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/47 "2002-08-17T22:30:40Z")
ā€œDonā€™t ever PAY for Internet porn.ā€ The thing with this & Playboy magazines is the women in them are always saying ā€˜Yesā€™ to the guy reading. Then the guy thinks all women say ā€˜Yesā€™ & when he finds out they donā€™t all say yesā€¦ Some of the women that pick him, smokers, tomboys, Etc, would be fine to me. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/48 "2002-08-18T05:05:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by handy \* > \*\*Some of the women that pick him, smokers, tomboys, Etc, would be fine to me. \*\* Well, **handy** , heā€™s still young. By the time you get to my (and presumably your) ripe ages, you tend to realize character and personality outweigh a lot of presumed ā€œfaults.ā€ šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/49 "2002-08-18T06:28:25Z")
What is a tomboy? ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/50 "2002-08-18T07:01:58Z")
A tomboy is a girl who likes traditionally male things, like sports and cars, who doesnā€™t like to dress up in skirts and high heels, who rarely wears and makeup, who doesnā€™t fuss over her hair and nails. My sister is a tomboy (she was a jet engine mechanic during the Vietnam War)ā€“and she pulls guys easier and faster than I ever have. [sub]I think itā€™s the dimples.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/51 "2002-08-18T21:27:34Z")
Thanks, squish. I get it now. Around here we call this kind of girl ā€œfailed/missed boysā€. Curiously, I was rather attracted to this kind of girls, when I was a teenagerā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/52 "2002-08-20T03:10:16Z")
The bell ends regulation time. d12 didnā€™t win. At least weā€™re still friends. Thanks alot dopers for the great advice! ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/53 "2002-08-20T03:41:00Z")
Ah, poop; I was really rooting for you. Did she say why? ---
**Author:** ![loupdebois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e495f1/32.png) [@loupdebois](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loupdebois)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/54 "2002-08-20T03:51:05Z")
D12, you got a marriage proposal out of this thread! Doesnā€™t that make up for it? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/55 "2002-08-20T04:06:25Z")
**Squish** : She didnā€™t think of me anymore than just a friend. **LoupDeBois** : Youā€™ve got a point šŸ˜‰ Aww well, maybe one day Iā€™ll find PerfectGirl. Maybe if I started to collect donations I could get a RealDoll. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/56 "2002-08-20T05:33:47Z")
Ehā€¦Donā€™t sweat it dude. I take you back to my first post: > [@](#): > > Dating is a game of numbers dude. You seem to have caught on to part of it with the 30% figure, but you didnā€™t take it quite far enough. > > Out of those thirty girls, you only asked one. One!!! > > If you ask out ten girls, you will be lucky if one says yes, so might I suggest at the next dance, you ask a few others out onto the floor. Even a few that you arenā€™t really interested in. Get back out there and ask another one. Then another. Then another. Etc. And stop looking for the ā€œperfect girlā€. You donā€™t want to find her for a few more years. In the meantime, get some practice time in on the rest. (You will also find that your idea of ā€œTPGā€ will change as you date more women) ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/57 "2002-08-20T05:36:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Get back out there and ask another one. Yes Coach! I was talking to her sister and she mentioned that Iā€™m too modest and not cocky enough. Any clues how I can become more cocky? ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/58 "2002-08-20T05:51:13Z")
Cocky? Dunno about thatā€¦ Confidence, a sense of humor, and just plain _niceness_ always attract me to a man. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/59 "2002-08-20T05:51:53Z")
Cocky? Dunno about thatā€¦ Confidence, a sense of humor, and just plain _niceness_ always attract me to a man. As far as The Perfect Girl or The Perfect Manā€“sorry to tell you, but ainā€™t no such animal. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![fizgig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f04885/32.png) [@fizgig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizgig)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981/60 "2002-08-20T06:02:01Z")
Just keep getting out there and talking to/asking out the girls you like. Concentrate on having fun, not on finding TPG. Experience is the best confidence builder, IME, not to mention helping you better KNOW who TPG for you is. Thereā€™s a difference between cockiness and confidence/self-assuredness. The latter two are much more attractive. Cockiness can come off fake. Rent ā€œThe Tao of Steveā€ (not that Iā€™d ever recommend such behaviour šŸ˜‰ ). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-the-ones-i-like-never-like-me/123981.md?page=4)