Why do theatres still exist?

There is a difference between listening to, say, ‘Moving Pictures’ and watching Neil Peart perform live. In the first instance, you’re listening to an album; in the second, you’re watching someone do something amazing in front of you. Watching someone sing The Great Gig in the Sky is different from listening to the song. Watching music performed live is a different experience from listening to music. I don’t know if it’s preferable or not, but it’s different.

From what I gather, Frank Zappa shows were particularly different.

And, much as I love live theater (including musicals) I’m ambivalent about concerts. So liking or not liking one, the OP should still try the other. I think I’ve enjoyed about 30% of the concerts I’ve attended. I tend to get the album/radio version of songs etched into my neurons, and I tweak when the artist makes much of a departure in concert.

Paul Simon was both the best (OMG, that’s Paul Simon!) and the worst (That. Is. NOT. How. “Bridge Over Troubled Waters”. Goes.) concert of my life.

That’s pretentious nonsense. Money and art applies to both equally.

Where else am I gonna find a nice quiet place to talk on my cellphone?

Just got home from seeing Fela!, which was phenomenal. My sister and I were talking about how you’d make it into a movie – and the fact that however good the movie was, it wouldn’t have the power of a live performance.

If we’re talking audience participation, Sleep No More should definitely get a mention. It’s a theatre show where members of the audience are given a creepy plague doctor mask, instructed not to speak or take the mask off, and set loose in a warehouse-turned-hotel set. There you can wander at will, touching, reading, or even eating whatever you wish. While this happens, actors wander throughout the set, performing scenes from Macbeth. If you find a particular actor interesting, you can follow them, and sometimes they will involve you (grabbing your hand and leading you to another room, for example).

I’ve never been–it’s only been in London and New York, with, I presume, no plans to go elsewhere–but I’ve heard nothing but good things about it, and if it ever comes to Minneapolis, I am dropping everything and going, like, yesterday.

As for general theatre shows, others have given more eloquent reasons, but here’s my two cents anyway: I have seen certain plays more than once (and I’ve performed, as well, which means attending more than once just by default). It really is a different experience every time. It may be the same story, but the actors are able to play to different audiences. And when the show involves audience participation, all the better.

I went to a lot of plays as a kid, and the cool thing about theatre for children is that sometimes you get to meet the actors afterward. It always seemed so much more personal for me, to be able to see these people in person, speak to them, and know that, say, the cruel villain isn’t actually a cruel villain in real life. Meeting a film actor is a LOT harder to do. (Not that it’s easy to meet a Broadway actor, either, but you’re still seeing the actor in person, as opposed to a big screen hundreds of miles away.)

jaw drop That sounds amazing. I want to go to there.

Smaller budgets means you can tackle riskier more controversial projects. That’s the theaters greatest strength at the college and community level. If needed I can stage a play on a bare stage, a crew painted backdrop, and a couple stools. We can tackle any subject. There’s a very good play about the gay hate crime against Matthew Shepard in Laramie, Wyoming that we did. It’s called the Laramie Project. We performed How I learned to Drive a pedophile Uncle’s relationship with his teen niece and how it shaped her life. We did several experimental plays with almost no defining plot. There were no restrictions on what we could explore in college theater.

Budgets force movies to be more mainstream and safer. They do tackle controversial subjects and take some risks. But, with even 30 million on the line somebody has to buy a ticket.

In some ways, but not all. It’s not that I agree with the OP, I completely understand the appeal plays have for actors, set designers, directors, playwrites, crew and audiences who are into it, but I can see things* in movies that I could never see in real life (either in person or onstage) and not have to pay high prices to see.

Plays will never die. As long as there are stories and actors and people who want to be entertained, there will be plays. That is, forever. As long as there are people in the world, there will be plays. They provide a special exercise for the imagination that has great appeal, like the difference between books and movies.

Personally, I prefer movies. For me they’re more immersive. But then, if I go to a play I’m too distracted and fascinated by the stagecraft of it, partially because I took Stagecraft in school and I love looking at how it’s all done, from rotating stages to backdrops to costuming to scrims and lighting to cues. I saw Les Miz in London and Julie Taymor’s The Lion King in Chicago and I spent more time focusing on and being fascinated by the stagecraft than what was actually going on in the plays. If I’m watching a movie I may appreciate the costumes, sets and all that but I’m focused more on the story and characters.

My wallet likes movies more too. I can see a dozen or more movies for the price of one theater ticket.
*I’m not just talking about special effect extravaganzas, but to take a recent example, I never realized the the scenery on Slovenia was SO gorgeous!

Missed edit. That should be IN Slovenia, of course.

I choose to not argue the pretentious and wrongheaded other comments about movies regarding art and commerce. Everyone knows I see an insane amount of movies, and the majority of them are art, and were not made to be blockbusters. They were made to tell stories. Good stories.

Another example. We took our kids to see “Cats” on Broadway (for about the tenth time) and we wound up in a box. At the beginning some of the actors crawled right in front of us, close enough to touch. My six-year old almost wet her pants.
Nothing like a movie. We saw “Black and Blue” with real blueswomen singing right in front of us. We saw Penn and Teller doing their tricks live. And we have a subscription to a community theater, not very expensive, but they do a great job.
If you are seeing celebrities, you are in the same room with them. But in any case, unlike a movie, you control the camera. You get to look where you want, not where a director tells you to look. And there is always the possibility of something new, unlike a movie.
Also, actors in plays do everything in order. I’ve been on the set of a TV show, and things are filmed out of order, in tiny snippets, over and over. Acting for the camera is different from acting for the stage, though some people can do both.
Do your self a favor and go.

I’ve seen Dylan several times, and every time he does the songs I know by heart in a different way. Often bands do songs that don’t get on albums, and some artists, like Richard Thompson, (not Dylan) have a great rapport with the audience. Again a totally different experience.

Explain, as you would to a child.

The OP is right but has not gone far enough! Theater, movies, live music, etc. are all outmoded media. All entertainment/art should be computer generated and delivered via iPad apps. Going to a special room to watch people talk or sing is an inefficient and primitive ritual. Remove all human factors from the process to eliminate inconsistencies and inefficiencies.:smiley:

And it’s still an absolute cracker! I saw it some years ago and the genius of Aeschylus still shone brightly over the intervening centuries even in translation. It’s astonishing to think that we’re hearing a work written by someone who actually fought in the Battle of Salamis against the Persians. The play imagines the scene when the remnants of the Persian army under Xerxes return home to Susa in defeat and despair and the reactions of the Queen Mother, Atossa, and the Persian elders, who had summoned the shade of Xerxes’ great conquering father Darius before the army’s arrival to inform him of the woeful outcome of his son’s attempts to subdue Greece.

Why does theatre survive? Because it’s a totally different art form to the cinema. Go and see a good play and you’ll understand just how different it is.

Same reason live music exists, it’s interactive, it’s participative. You say you’ve never heard live music and I say that unless you’re thoroughly deaf you’re probably mistaken, and even if you’re deaf you’ve probably witnessed live music. Buskers, a group of students and a guitar, a church chorus, kids skipping rope.

I was once waiting for a live street concert with a group of friends; the musicians got delayed by bad weather, but the concert was still taking place as soon as they could land. One of my friends took a guitar out, then another one did. People near our group started coming over; the two guys with guitars got their first request before they’d even finished tuning up. The orchestral concert was preceded by three hours of “two guitars, forty people and anybody who wants to join”. You can’t get that with an iPod :slight_smile:

The last three plays I watched were very close to each other; all were musical formats. The second one had mostly songs which are “classics” (I Will Survive, both Gloria Gaynor and Celia Cruz; I Love Rock’n’Roll…): the audience sang along. The first and third were two different shows by these guys. They’re from two provinces away and there is often political tension between our regions: at several points in the plays they had morcillas (I don’t know the English term), bits added specially for the occasion. For example, there was a song in Basque, and before they started one of them said “but see where we are!” “what?” “we’re in southern Navarre, people don’t speak Basque here! Not only that, if we start singing in Basque we could end up in the river!”… the other three stared at the audience… the audience stared back… then one pointed out “well, we’ve sung in English too, how many do you think speak English?” “… English-English, or English like yours?” “the real kind” and then they shook their heads, breathed in and started singing. You don’t get that from a DVD :slight_smile:

giggle When I google morcillas, I get black sausages.

I think we’d call that “patter” here. Patter is the talking that performers do in between the things they’re actually there to perform. A musician will use patter to provide transition, information, or just keep the audience entertained while he retunes his guitar. A stage magician will use patter to distract an audience while performing a sleight of hand trick.

While the wikipedia article on patter is adamant that patter is prepared and practiced, in my experience, the term is also used to apply to improvised speech.

Excellent point.
A movie involves a great number of people behind the scenes, but only a handful of actors.
Theater gives everyone a chance to be a star, even if only for one weekend.

Hmm…I don’t really understand what’s so special about the fact that the actors are real people. Perhaps if they were famous stars, but not Joe Average. I guess it’s something that needs to be experienced…

As someone with social anxiety, the interaction with the audience aspect seems terrifying! “oh my god, he’s looking right at me…do I look bored?”

That doesn’t seem like good return for your money… :s

That reminds me of a concern I’ve had about musicals. I would like to see a West End musical, which obviously are ridiculously expensive. But I think it would bother me a lot that the songs wouldn’t be the same as the cast recording album, being performed by the “wrong people” and not being sung “right”. However, from what I’ve read here, it seems that to a lot of people, the differences are a good thing…is that right?

I think it’s something that needs to be experienced, with an open mind. I love live theater above any other kind of entertainment. The wall drops between you and the show and you feel like you are sharing space and time with the actors. Simple sets, elaborate sets, musicals, dramatic theater- you feel engaged wit the show in a way movies do not do. It’s big as life, right there in front of you and yet they can create the illusion of being in a another time and place.

It’s exciting and different every time you experience it. My daughter has a lead in Fiddler this weekend and I will be at each show. Each one will be different in small ways and sometimes not so small ways!