# Why do we have to take administrative complaints to the Pit?

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**Created:** [May 16, 2001, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610 "2001-05-16T15:07:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/21 "2001-11-11T00:33:51Z")

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Um, that the Moderator Cabal went over to her house, beat the crap out of her with baseball bats, for daring to criticize something on the Boards, and they beat her so badly that she had amnesia, and she woke up in the hospital not knowing who she was, and so she hasn’t been able to post since last May?

Or, or, wait, I know! She must’ve been on the [Witness List](http://www.house.gov/science/energy/may17/energy_witness_051701.htm) for the Committee on Science Subcommittee on Energy of the U.S. House of Representatives hearing on “Department of Energy Office of Science—Issues and Opportunities”, and Big Oil had her snuffed before she could testify 'cause she was gonna say something mean about them.

Or, or, wait, I know! When she heard Dubya’s outline for his [national energy plan](http://fyi.cnn.com/2001/fyi/lesson.plans/05/17/energy.plan/), she got so disgusted that she packed her gear and moved to a tiny island in the South Pacific.

Or, or, wait, I know! Maybe “she” was really Richard Blahut, and when “she” was [named head of the U of I’s Electrical and Computer Engineering Department,](http://www.ece.uiuc.edu/enews/newhead/) “she” realized that it was time to grow up and put childish things behind “her”, and so “she” swore off the SDMB.

Or, or, wait, I know! Maybe she flunked her [Authentidate Content Authentication](http://csrc.nist.gov/pki/twg/y2001/twg01_5.htm) during the May meeting of the Federal PKI Technical Working Group, and she got fired, so she doesn’t have free Internet access anymore.

Or, or, wait, I know! Maybe she got food poisoning at the [Center for Food Safety luncheon](http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:bjPrk3jjyJc:www.ncfst.iit.edu/pdfdocs/ift01.pdf+May+17,+2001&hl=en)–and died.

Or maybe she just suddenly got a life.  
It does happen, you know.

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**Author:** ![The\_Pit\_and\_The\_Pendulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@The\_Pit\_and\_The\_Pendulum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Pit_and_The_Pendulum)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/22 "2001-11-11T00:37:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*Or maybe she just suddenly got a life.  
> It does happen, you know. \*\*

You’re one to talk! You live here. RL is something you have to see on TV. No offence 😃

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/23 "2001-11-12T17:34:26Z")

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**Moderator’s Notes:** TP&TP, you are gonna stop your sniping right now. Or, in spite of the extreme, yet predictable, irony, I’ll move _this_ thread to the Pit. Got it?

[Edited by UncleBeer on 11-12-2001 at 11:36 AM]

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**Author:** ![Oncle\_Biere\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oncle\_Biere\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oncle_Biere_1)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/24 "2001-11-12T17:51:12Z")

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I think this actually was her swan song here.  
She continued posting on OpalCat’s board, but said she was going to give this one a rest.

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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/25 "2001-11-13T11:30:12Z")

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Heh. My daily post average here (total posts divided by approximate number of days since registration) is still slightly higher than over at Fathom, even though it’s true that I’ve been more active there in the last year-and-some.

I don’t remember ever _saying_ I was going to give this place a rest, it just worked out that way. Worked out that way for everything else, too, actually. Just had other stuff to do.

Anyway…since you were wondering. Here I am.

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**Author:** ![2nd\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/d07c76/32.png) [@2nd\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_guest)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/26 "2001-11-15T19:04:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*Um, that the Moderator Cabal went over to her house, beat the crap out of her with baseball bats, for daring to criticize something on the Boards, and they beat her so badly that she had amnesia, and she woke up in the hospital not knowing who she was, and so she hasn’t been able to post since last May?  
> \*\*

(😕Conspiracy theories? (Why do the old timers always bring up conspiracy?)

I believe the key point is this

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> I just think that the Pit may not be the best spot, because it’s a relatively hostile environment.

I take it that you, The Pit, and UncleBeer think that ATMB should also be a hostile environment. I don’t agree. I think when UncleBeer was doing his editing, he missed a chance to keep the thread dignified, by editing out the BS. It would be nice to have an adult discussion on this forum.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/27 "2001-11-15T23:19:15Z")

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**Moderator’s Notes:**

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> I think when UncleBeer was doing his editing, he missed a chance to keep the thread dignified, by editing out the BS.

Complaints and criticisms of moderator actions belong in the Pit. Take it there, or pipe down, bub.

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**Author:** ![2nd\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/d07c76/32.png) [@2nd\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_guest)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/28 "2001-11-18T20:16:23Z")

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That’s exactly what this thread is about (quoting: )

\*Why do we have to take administrative complaints to the Pit? \*

Your point is that discussions become crude.  
My point is that if one can edit, one can remove the crude parts and leave the adult parts.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2001, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/29 "2001-11-18T20:25:12Z")

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Hmmm…

There’s a large grey area left here, which, with my usual trepidation, I’d open.

What about the sort of post that _questions_ a given policy of the board, respectfully and either for information or to suggest a plausible alternative? Where does that appropriately belong? I could see here in ATMB or the Pit, since there’s a slippery slope between “Can you X?” (ATMB) "Why can’t you X? (the grey area post) and “The Moderators are Maroons for not letting me X!!” (Pit).

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2001, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-we-have-to-take-administrative-complaints-to-the-pit/65610/30 "2001-11-18T20:38:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> \*\* I could see here in ATMB or the Pit, since there’s a slippery slope between “Can you X?” (ATMB) "Why can’t you X? (the grey area post) and “The Moderators are Maroons for not letting me X!!” (Pit). \*\*

A guess, **Poly**

“Why can’t you X” = ATMB  
“Why won’t Mod Z let me X?” =Pit

It’s a grey area, but to me, policy questions “Why can’t we discuss chat stuff?” is ATMB but the second that personalities are brought in, it’s Pit-fodder.

Just my .02c

Fenris

[Edited by Ukulele Ike on 11-18-2001 at 06:38 PM]

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