# Why do wing nut trolls like to hit-and-run so much?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 19, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069 "2010-05-19T23:39:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/21 "2010-05-20T18:01:52Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> Um, the **OP** there, **pkbites** appears to be a charter member with 5,366 posts here to his (or her) credit.

And yet they dropped an inflamatory OP, with gross generalizations, and poor logic, that seems only to get people riled up, and then **never posted in the thread again**.

It is entirely possible to have been here a long time, and still fashion a trolling post.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/22 "2010-05-20T18:03:10Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Is **pkbites** capable of committing a hit-and-run? After starting a debate 4 days ago, he disappeared - that is what annoys me.

disappeared from the thread maybe - but he/she has posted in other threads since, and is _currently_ online.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/23 "2010-05-20T19:02:32Z")

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I was really hoping this was going to be an observation about the categories of bumper stickers on cars seen fleeing accident sites.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/24 "2010-05-20T20:45:18Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> That’s a very good point. **pkbites** is no troll.

He’s a fucking idiot, though.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/25 "2010-05-20T20:52:04Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I’ve seen how “debating” goes on a site that is dedicated to dismissing such claims. It’s not very pretty, and I can fully understand how one might not want to repeat the experience on another board.
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> ps. Most of the opposition to conspiracy theories is what I prefer to call massdebating.

And we call your style of questioning JAQing off. Your point?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/26 "2010-05-20T22:54:23Z")

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Oh, are you are denizen of the jref, then? And you are completely happy with labeling **everyone** with conflicting opinions to the OCT, as nutcases, cranks, traitors, etc, etc…?

It’s interesting that you types view people who don’t accept what you accept, in such an insulting light.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/27 "2010-05-20T23:06:15Z")

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Look Ivan, you’re the one who doesn’t understand the laws of physics, so maybe you should climb down off your high horse. Oh, they debate you so unFAIRLY! Oh, they’re so close-MINDED! You’re just asking questions!

It is indeed a trial to be confronted by such a unanimous opposition.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/28 "2010-05-20T23:15:50Z")

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Understand what laws of physics? You mean the ones that say WTC7 fell with no resistance whatsoever for 2.5 secs?

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/29 "2010-05-21T00:45:53Z")

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You’re the one who thinks molten steel glows red hot.

But nevermind that. You weren’t a hit-and-run troll in your Truther threads, so bitching you out serves no purpose here. I just couldn’t let your self-justification pass without pissing on it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/30 "2010-05-23T20:11:31Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Oh, are you are denizen of the jref, then? And you are completely happy with labeling **everyone** with conflicting opinions to the OCT, as nutcases, cranks, traitors, etc, etc…?

You forgot the E word - evil.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/31 "2010-05-24T01:16:40Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Understand what laws of physics?  
[/QUOTE]

Any of them?

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> You mean the ones that say WTC7 fell with no resistance whatsoever for 2.5 secs?

Case in point. You don’t understand that evidence stuff either, nor do you have any kind of grasp of the difference between real experts testimonial (nor a strong grasp of what an expert actually is) and a video on YouTube. I realize that to you, a YouTube video and expert testimonial are synonymous…

-XT

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/32 "2010-05-25T22:01:34Z")

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\< checks forum \>

**xtisme** , you are a fucking tool. Why would anyone pay serious attention to one of your posts?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/33 "2010-05-25T22:09:47Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
xtisme, you are a fucking tool. Why would anyone pay serious attention to one of your posts?  
[/QUOTE]

I don’t know that they do, Ivan…and, frankly, I’m militantly indifferent to whether they do or not. You, on the other hand, are both an idiot and close to certifiable, so, all things considered, I’d rather be a ‘tool’. YMMV, and perhaps you enjoy being an idiot…and probably don’t notice the crazy much, besides.

Have a nice day, and remember that many decaffeinated beverages are just as tasty as the real thing. I say this earnestly, as I really mean it…from the heart 'mano! Really really…

-XT

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/34 "2010-05-25T22:20:39Z")

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I’ve just looked up “idiot” in the dictionary and there’s a picture of you alongside the definition.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/35 "2010-05-25T22:22:40Z")

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Really? How do I look? Pretty dashing, ehe?

(That is probably one of the lamest things I’ve heard since the 2nd grade, Ivan, but I know that you really try hard so…kudos man! Keep the faith and all that.)

-XT

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/36 "2010-05-25T22:25:19Z")

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Do you think I’d waste my best stuff on the likes of you? Sorry, but at your level, you only get the quips off the bottom row.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/37 "2010-05-25T22:57:18Z")

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**ivan** , seriously, are you listening to yourself here?

Not that this is the thread to criticize you in - you don’t hit and run. Heck, the way you ‘argue’ makes me wish you did.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/38 "2010-05-25T22:59:01Z")

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Go on, enlighten me. What is “the way I argue”, o wise sage?

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/39 "2010-05-25T23:11:37Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Go on, enlighten me. What is “the way I argue”, o wise sage?

[You must have missed it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12478743&postcount=25).

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-wing-nut-trolls-like-to-hit-and-run-so-much/540069/40 "2010-05-25T23:19:17Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Go on, enlighten me. What is “the way I argue”, o wise sage?

To put it another way, you make statements that are incorrect, inviting corrections, which you get, and then _ignore_, repeating the same stupid statements, eliciting more replies, which you continue to ignore, with yet more stupid repetitions of your stupid arguments that get all the stupider each time you have to deny yet more reality to make them.

There are three explanations I can think of for this. 1) You’re so brain damaged you’re literally physically incapable of comprehending and remembering the counterarguments. 2) You’re so blindly addicted to your position that you’re _psychologically_ incapable of admitting your errors, resulting in you being mired in endless denial, or 3) you’re deliberately trolling. To your credit, I think you’re one of 1 and/or 2, not 3.

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