# Why do you eat non-veg?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 12, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737 "2016-03-12T13:52:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/21 "2016-03-12T16:49:20Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Do plants feel comparable pain to the animals?

Do fish or lobsters? Evidence suggests that they do not. However they will try to get away from noxious stimulation. Plants to not have nociceptors, nor a neocortex; but they will use what means they have to avoid or attack noxious stimulation.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/22 "2016-03-12T16:51:13Z")

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The animals will die whether they are eaten by humans or not. Killing them for my gustatory pleasure gives the same outcome as not killing them. Killing and eating them is a morally neutral act.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/23 "2016-03-12T16:53:42Z")

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Cows, pigs and sheep are spectaculary successful species because we breed them for food. And wool. And John Motson’s sheepskin coats.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/24 "2016-03-12T16:59:51Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Do fish or lobsters? Evidence suggests that they do not. However they will try to get away from noxious stimulation. Plants to not have nociceptors, nor a neocortex; but they will use what means they have to avoid or attack noxious stimulation.

Thanks. Is the agony that one feels while drowning in water similar to what a fish feels when it is taken out of water?

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/25 "2016-03-12T17:01:04Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> Big enough to seek a principled life, small enough to try to dictate it.

I am not big enough for anything. I am an unimportant nobody.

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**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/26 "2016-03-12T17:01:58Z")

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I eat non-veg because people are carnivores and need meat to be truly healthy. Kind of like cats and dogs CAN survive on a “veg” diet but survival doesn’t mean they have achieved optimal health.

Death is really not the worst thing that can happen to an animal. My only concern is that the animal had a reasonable life and the quickest death possible. I raise and slaughter my own poultry and these birds have it good in comparison to wild animals. They could leave but they don’t.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/27 "2016-03-12T17:03:42Z")

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Would you rather condemn the animal to live in the wild, only to be savagely torn apart and eaten alive by other animals . . . or succumb to infection or disease, and die a slow agonizing death? Or not being born in the first place? Is that your idea of compassion?

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/28 "2016-03-12T17:14:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> If you eat lettuce, you’re killing an organism that was grown only to be slaughtered for your food. How cruel is that?

If you meet one of those holier than thou vegans, take the moral high ground by claiming to be a [Fruitarian](http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/dec/03/-sp-trouble-with-fruitarians).

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/29 "2016-03-12T17:17:37Z")

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Why do I eat non-veg? Because it tastes nice, and it’s practical.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/30 "2016-03-12T17:17:48Z")

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> [@spamforbrains](#):
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> I eat non-veg because people are carnivores and need meat to be truly healthy. Kind of like cats and dogs CAN survive on a “veg” diet but survival doesn’t mean they have achieved optimal health.

[Obligatory video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sM8pDH-HMc).

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**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/31 "2016-03-12T17:21:39Z")

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Because most vegetarian food nauseates me.

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**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/32 "2016-03-12T17:24:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> take the moral high ground by claiming to be a Fruitarian.

bananas feel less pain than lettuce? :smack: who knew. Clearly these people missed all of the studies showing that sugar is the enemy. Eat steak, not sugar-laden fruit.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/33 "2016-03-12T17:25:11Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> Because most vegetarian food nauseates me.

Fruit, vegetables, grains, legumes nauseate you?

You only eat animal products?

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/34 "2016-03-12T17:26:42Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> Because most vegetarian food nauseates me.

Really? Brussels sprouts? Steamed broccoli? Macaroni and cheese? Rice? Baked potatoes? Salads? Asparagus? Asparagus with Béchamel sauce? Toast? Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? Polenta? There’s plenty of vegetarian dishes that are absolutely delicious. That’s why I eat dead animals _and_ dead or alive plants!

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/35 "2016-03-12T17:28:32Z")

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Indian vegetarian food is absolutely delicious. Maybe because half of us Indians are vegetarians.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/36 "2016-03-12T17:31:32Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Really? Brussels sprouts? Steamed broccoli? Macaroni and cheese? Rice? Baked potatoes? Salads? Asparagus? Asparagus with Béchamel sauce? Toast? Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? Polenta? There’s plenty of vegetarian dishes that are absolutely delicious. That’s why I eat dead animals _and_ dead or alive plants!

Béchamel sauce doesn’t count. It has milk. 😉  
ETA: Ditto the Mac and cheese.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/37 "2016-03-12T17:31:53Z")

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Try chole bhature sometime.  
There is dal makhni, few paneer dishes and makki-roti with sarson saag etc. as well. Mouth watering.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/38 "2016-03-12T17:35:03Z")

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A lot of the arguments here are pretty terrible. Try this: if you substitute the word “human” for “animal” in your argument, is your argument unchanged?

Unless your argument either explicitly condones cannibalistic murder, or explicitly distinguishes between the morality of eating animal flesh and the morality of cannibalistic murder, it doesn’t address the concerns of animal rights.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/39 "2016-03-12T17:38:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Béchamel sauce doesn’t count. It has milk. 😉  
> ETA: Ditto the Mac and cheese.

Dairy is vegetarian. You might be thinking vegan.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-eat-non-veg/748737/40 "2016-03-12T17:44:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Dairy is vegetarian. You might be thinking vegan.

I think he was thinking vegan. Dairy makes everything yummy.  
That’s why I asked him if he ate only animal products.

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