# Why do YOU hate PETA? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 22, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367 "2010-03-22T18:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/41 "2010-03-22T22:45:36Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > PETA is real tough when they’re harassing blue haired little old ladies for wearing fur. If they want to impress me, they’ll need to start harassing biker gangs for wearing leather. I’m going to steal this phrase. You fucking nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/42 "2010-03-22T22:50:25Z")
From what I’ve seen of PETA (and the ALF - I’m not going out of my way to make a distinction between them), they are at _best_ ignorant hypocritical irresponsible lying bastards with no respect at all for the welfare of the animals they supposedly care so much about. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/43 "2010-03-22T22:55:37Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Guess what: all your cruelty-free cosmetics are made by companies who just buy their recipes from other companies that do animal testing. That way they can say they don’t do any animal testing. Or with chemicals that were tested in the past on animals and thus the company doesn’t see a need to do it all fucking over again. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/44 "2010-03-22T23:19:18Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > Wouldn’t pictures of slaughterhouses and animal cruelty make you feel guilty enough to be a vegan? No, it would make me angry at the people who showed me something so unpleasant, causing me to reject whatever they’re advocating. In other way, I’d treat them the same way I’d treat someone defecating on my doormat. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/45 "2010-03-22T23:31:15Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > I’m going to steal this phrase. > You fucking nailed it. The first time I heard that one I laughed so hard I fell off my saber toothed tiger. That one might be older than **Oakminster**. It’s still a good one, and once you file the serial numbers off of it should be fair game. You can’t call it stealing. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/46 "2010-03-22T23:53:57Z")
My wife used to be a member of PETA, and she is still sympathetic if not entirely on board. And she understands completely that 90% of the stuff they do is to create shock and awe tohelp raise money. I certainly don’t condone the way PETA handled the OPs situation, sounds pretty shitty. But it was also pretty short-sighted to buy sharks without considering the consequences of when they got bigger. Certainly doesn’t make you the devil incarnate, though. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/47 "2010-03-22T23:55:19Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > I’m going to steal this phrase. > You fucking nailed it. > [@Bill\_Door](#): > > The first time I heard that one I laughed so hard I fell off my saber toothed tiger. That one might be older than **Oakminster**. It’s still a good one, and once you file the serial numbers off of it should be fair game. You can’t call it stealing. Yeah, I’m pretty sure I heard it somewhere before, but I can’t remember where or when. Might pay to watch PETA try it, though… ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/48 "2010-03-22T23:55:31Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > They want us to live in the stone age. Not really. Humans used lots of meat and animal parts back then.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/49 "2010-03-23T00:00:42Z")
> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#): > > Not really. Humans used lots of meat and animal parts back then.🙂 But they didn’t have film and modern insulation! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/50 "2010-03-23T00:13:38Z")
I fail to understand the outrage over the use of animal parts beyond food. Besides maybe clubbing baby seals for their fur, leather is a perfectly acceptable usage of cow skin to me. I guess I’m going to be the asshole that says “I don’t really care about the supposed plight of herd animals and birds that are harvested for their meat and body parts, since they are…not people”. I really don’t give a shit. What I DO give a shit about is the potential for human poisoning due to unknown results of modern farming practices like hormones and such. And even then, I don’t care a whole lot. I like meat, I like milk, I like whatever I like, and if I am able to buy a product that is by and large demonstrably safe, then I generally just don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/51 "2010-03-23T00:19:16Z")
I hate PETA because they’re such successful trolls. There are thousands of nonprofits doing great work in the US and around the world, but if a search I conducted a few years ago is accurate, all of them **together** get less attention here on SDMB than PETA does. They troll, y’all bite. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/52 "2010-03-23T00:21:43Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I hate PETA because they’re hypocrites (fueling protests outside of shelters because animals there are put to sleep - only to hide the fact that they put down thousands of animals every year themselves) and because they demand “total liberation” of animals. No pets, no more medical research (without animal studies all medical research comes to a halt), no more film, insulation, furniture glue, nothing that uses animal parts. > > They want us to live in the stone age. Of course, I also hate it when folks buy someone else’s bullshit! about PETA. This quoted paragraph has only a nodding acquaintance with reality; I say this having done some several hours of research into PETA’s positions and actions some years ago. They don’t protest euthanasia at all, and their call for total liberation of animals is very much a long-term prospect. They’re still nutbags in many ways, but not like this. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/53 "2010-03-23T00:52:58Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I fail to understand the outrage over the use of animal parts beyond food. Besides maybe clubbing baby seals for their fur, leather is a perfectly acceptable usage of cow skin to me. > > I guess I’m going to be the asshole that says “I don’t really care about the supposed plight of herd animals and birds that are harvested for their meat and body parts, since they are…not people”. > > I really don’t give a shit. What I DO give a shit about is the potential for human poisoning due to unknown results of modern farming practices like hormones and such. > > And even then, I don’t care a whole lot. I like meat, I like milk, I like whatever I like, and if I am able to buy a product that is by and large demonstrably safe, then I generally just don’t care. I just wanted to observe the disconnect here between your poster name and your views. 😛 In relation to the OP, PETA have not made themselves popular in Australia due to their attempts to get live exports of farm animals banned (Farming is a major industry in Australia and fucking with that is a Very Bad Thing), criticising Steve Irwin after he died (people might have found his image a bit cliched and tiring, but no-one can deny he did good work and was truly passionate and cared about about wildlife), and generally being associated with the extreme left fringe. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/54 "2010-03-23T01:06:57Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > their call for total liberation of animals is very much a long-term prospect. It being a long-term prospect doesn’t reduce its ridiculousness at all. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/55 "2010-03-23T01:19:08Z")
1. Without animal medical testing, I and millions of other diabetics would have been dead. 2. Their criminal actions which they feel are justified by the ends. 3. They are incredible IRL trolls, and trolls on message boards. Wasn’t there a PETA member on this message board who caused a stir by equating wearing leather shoes with making Jewish skin lamps? Most PETA members I’ve met are typically the overeducated and underemployed children of middle-class homes who in lieu of doing anything productive with their life like a career, decided to essentially become 21st-century Yippies. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/56 "2010-03-23T01:29:37Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I just wanted to observe the disconnect here between your poster name and your views. 😛 Purely accidental. I have no particular liking for seasoned, seared duck or goose body parts when they are served over a brioche toast to catch the drippings and an acidic fruit/wine combo to finish the deal. Disgusting! That shit should be illegal or something… ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/57 "2010-03-23T01:43:05Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > As a Green Bay Packers fan, and advocate of responsible consumption of alcohol, I hate them. > > About once a season or so, PETA protests on a game day. They hate the Packers because it used to be the Acme Meat Packers, way back when. They suggest we change the name to “The Green Bay Six-Packers.” Are you fucking serious? I suggest Fudge-Packers.😃 ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/58 "2010-03-23T03:40:06Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > They make an extremest joke out of a decent cause, minimizing the suffering of animals. Fuck PETA, and support The Humane Society and local shelters. Not the HSUS - they are essentially the same thing as PETA. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/59 "2010-03-23T05:01:03Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > 1. Without animal medical testing, I and millions of other diabetics would have been dead. Including Ingrid Newkirk, PETA president. > [@](#): > > “I’m an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products – and I have no qualms about it … I’m not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don’t see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals.” > –Glamour, January 1990 ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367/60 "2010-03-23T05:06:40Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > 1. Without animal medical testing, I and millions of other diabetics would have been dead. A number of years ago I had a an employee that was a very nice sweet beautiful young lady. This young lady was one that brought light into any room she walked into. Funny, smart, nice, everything you can say about the typical girl next door (assuming that you have excellent taste in neighbors) She also happened to be severely diabetic. Injected insulin. Anyway to make a long story short, I love my dog, but if it meant the life of a person like her, I would gladly give the life of my dog, and all of my future dogs to preserve hers. (same with you **Una** ) Also if you look up hypocrite in the dictionary it says see PETA. > [@](#): > > MaryBeth Sweetland, is an insulin-dependent diabetic.[75] Sweetland, who would not have had treatment available for her disease had insulin not been developed using animal products and testing, has defended her actions, stating “I don’t see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals.”[76] [cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals) bite me bitch. Your life is not worth 1 penny more than Una’s or my former employees. In fact it is worth less as they contribute positive things to this life, you on the other hand are a POS. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-hate-peta/533367.md?page=4)