# Why do you like Donald Trump as President? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064 "2018-05-12T21:09:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/421 "2018-05-18T15:56:28Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > And yet, everything Democrats have done in their public or private lives is their concern, so the hypocrisy comes across clear and bright. > > Trump cheating on his wife while she’s pregnant? Private matter, none of our concern. > > However, the following apparently ARE public concerns; > What two people do in their bedroom. > Someone smoking weed. > A woman having an abortion. > What religion someone practices (if it isn’t the right flavor of Christianity) > > Yeah, we notice the glaring hypocrisy in these things. I agree that it’s glaring hypocrisy, but it answers the question of why Trump’s voters continue to support him. Hypocrisy is offensive to progressives because they value consistency and fact-based truth. Conservatives tend to be more subjective with people and they trust their perceptions over facts. They also tend to behave more like tribesmen. They can forgive the blatant sins of a tribal chief more than they can tolerate accidental missteps of those not in the tribe. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/422 "2018-05-18T16:14:03Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > There is a phenonenom that I see time and time again. When you levy criticism of Trump towards a supporter, they reflexively make a Hillary reference. It’s so common it should have a term to describe it (…I got nothin’). Hillary Hysteria. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/423 "2018-05-18T16:40:09Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Hillary Hysteria. Republicans, having learned from their Russian allies, of course turn everything around and accuse their opposition of doing exactly what they’re doing. Which is why they accuse us of hysteria toward Trump. :rolleyes: But yeah, as I keep posting in various places: “Hillary isn’t under your beds waiting to steal your children and take them to pizza parlors or Mars.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/424 "2018-05-18T17:20:32Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Republicans, having learned from their Russian allies, of course turn everything around and accuse their opposition of doing exactly what they’re doing. Are you implying that the Republicans have been allied with the Russians for two decades? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/425 "2018-05-18T17:25:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Are you implying that the Republicans have been allied with the Russians for two decades? Allied? No. But they have certainly been studying the authoritarian oligarchy play book. You don’t have to like your opponent to admire his strategy. But it doesn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/426 "2018-05-18T17:35:41Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Republicans, having learned from their Russian allies, of course turn everything around and accuse their opposition of doing exactly what they’re doing. > > Which is why they accuse us of hysteria toward Trump. :rolleyes: > > But yeah, as I keep posting in various places: “Hillary isn’t under your beds waiting to steal your children and take them to pizza parlors or Mars.” Of course not. That’s Jeff Bezos. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/427 "2018-05-18T19:18:37Z")
**k9** : I was not aware vitrification was so durable. Lesson learned. I wasn’t trying to disparage scientists with the alchemy quip. The whole thing comes down to, add a neutron to uranium, you get fuel. Take a neutron away from lead and you have gold. We understand these things, but following through can be another issue. I wasn’t saying Your attitude was a one-liner but that the GOP’s is. “Regulations are bad”, full stop, just strikes me as something pitched to idiots. Do they favor anarchy? Laws against murder are regulations, should we abandon those? The whole conversation is straight up stupid, maybe meant to stoke fears of a government boogeyman conspiracy that gives people something far away to blame for all their problems, and if we could just. cut. taxes… Anyway, when someone comes along and calls out a Specific regulation and can explain the details of WHY it is bad, then we’re not demagogueing suckers, we’re having a conversation. Your example of redundant cooling systems is like that. Anyhoo, if I have more to say it will have to wait for tomorrow… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/428 "2018-05-18T20:37:01Z")
That’s “take TWO (not ONE) PROTONS (not NEUTRONS) away from lead and you get gold.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/429 "2018-05-18T20:44:31Z")
Yeah, but it turns out that’s really hard to do and not something you can do through simple chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/430 "2018-05-18T21:15:01Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > **k9** : I was not aware vitrification was so durable. Lesson learned. > > I wasn’t trying to disparage scientists with the alchemy quip. The whole thing comes down to, add a neutron to uranium, you get fuel. Take a neutron away from lead and you have gold. We understand these things, but following through can be another issue. I’m assuming those are random examples, as they are both a bit wrong. But, we do understand the process of nuclear fission far better than we do that of making gold out of lead. Not saying we couldn’t make gold out of lead if we wanted to, we certainly know how, it’s just not even close to worth it. Compared to making lead into gold, making power out of uranium and thorium is actually easy. > [@](#): > > I wasn’t saying Your attitude was a one-liner but that the GOP’s is. “Regulations are bad”, full stop, just strikes me as something pitched to idiots. Do they favor anarchy? Laws against murder are regulations, should we abandon those? The whole conversation is straight up stupid, maybe meant to stoke fears of a government boogeyman conspiracy that gives people something far away to blame for all their problems, and if we could just. cut. taxes… I fully agree. I know of many specific regulations that are less productive than they should be, and that could be looked at to ensure that they are meeting the needs that they were implemented for. I also know of some things that are not regulated that should be. > [@](#): > > Anyway, when someone comes along and calls out a Specific regulation and can explain the details of WHY it is bad, then we’re not demagogueing suckers, we’re having a conversation. Your example of redundant cooling systems is like that. And there can be disagreements on whether the regulation is good or bad, and some of the nukies I’ve seen have had more blanket statements that getting rid of all nuclear regulations would be a good thing, and I certainly can’t get behind that. > [@](#): > > Anyhoo, if I have more to say it will have to wait for tomorrow… I appreciate your feedback. Crap it’s the pit, think of an insult… 🙂 > [@Chimera](#): > > Yeah, but it turns out that’s really hard to do and not something you can do through simple chemistry. Or complex chemistry, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/431 "2018-05-18T22:18:53Z")
One proton, two protons, you are willing to fight me over literally the smallest differences! Shall I call you a twatwaffle? I can only speculate what that even is. Anyone know? I know douche is bad, but never really understood why people call each other that. I mean, c’mon. And what is a git? I’m not very good at this… ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/432 "2018-05-18T22:24:21Z")
I just tried to literally interpret ‘twatwaffle’ and lost my appetite. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/433 "2018-05-18T22:32:52Z")
Urban Dictionary The idiot that gets on your last damn nerve. The person you know that suffers from excessive verbal diarrhea. The one you want to smack in the face with a pick-axe. The person who has done it all and done it better than you. Someone who’s vagina has been smashed so many times it begins to look like a nasty ass waffle. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/434 "2018-05-18T22:40:09Z")
Nm ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/435 "2018-05-18T23:20:08Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > …And what is a git? I’m not very good at this… From “beget”. A French bread, long and then, which can hoist a white flag if needed, or otherwise, eaten. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/436 "2018-05-18T23:30:58Z")
“Git is a distributed version control system.” 😛 [Or used in this scene with Tom Baker chewing more scenery than BRIAN BLESSED.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EfW9znJYjw) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/437 "2018-05-19T04:37:19Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > There is a phenonenom that I see time and time again. When you levy criticism of Trump towards a supporter, they reflexively make a Hillary reference. It’s so common it should have a term to describe it (…I got nothin’). [Pavlovian](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pavlovian?s=t). > [@QuickSilver](#): > > Hillary Hysteria. Also a good choice. Google the term for some fun search results. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/438 "2018-05-19T13:38:18Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > **postpic200** , if you’re still reading this thread, I hope you’re willing to answer the question being posed: > > It’s understood that HRC had serious shortcomings and I completely understand why someone would feel that she did not deserve their vote. That said, given Trump’s severe character flaws, many of them mentioned in this very thread, why do you feel that he was deserving of your vote? What specifically motivated you to come out to vote in the last election? Inquiring minds want to know. Seems yet another Trump supporter demures from offering a reasoned explanation. I realize the majority of this board runs anti-Trump, so it can’t be an easy position to defend. Or perhaps it’s not a defensible position after all. We may never know. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/439 "2018-05-19T14:20:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Seems yet another Trump supporter demures from offering a reasoned explanation. > … Most trump supporters I know answer why they like trump with a “I just disliked Hillary more.” I accept that, it’s when they start qualifying why they think trump’s a better choice that they get lost. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064/440 "2018-05-19T15:10:25Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Seems yet another Trump supporter demures from offering a reasoned explanation. > > I realize the majority of this board runs anti-Trump, so it can’t be an easy position to defend. Or perhaps it’s not a defensible position after all. We may never know. Oh, we know. They can’t defend their assertions, which are largely false. Or they blow the dog whistle and we call them out on it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-like-donald-trump-as-president/814064.md?page=23)