# Why do YOU watch Enterprise? It's good or it's Trek? (An entertainment poll) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 12, 2002, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235 "2002-12-12T11:45:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/21 "2002-12-12T22:33:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cliffy \* > \*\*I’d say it’s somewhat better than fair, but otherwise I agree with _carnivorousplant_. I probably would not be watching it so religiously if it were not Star Trek. > > –Cliffy \*\* [Chevy Chase in _Spies Like Us_ voice] Ditto, ditto, ditto, and ditto. [/Chevy Chase in _Spies Like Us_ voice] that was hard to type ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/22 "2002-12-12T22:45:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GuanoLad \* > That translator woman isn’t going to have much of a job as the show progresses, and as it is she’s a bit of a third wheel most of the time. And I do not understand why all the women have to wear all the skin tight clothes and have enormous boobs sticking out like that. > > \*\* ALL? Only one, AFAIK- but since she is the main reason why I watch the show…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/23 "2002-12-12T23:47:56Z")
What **Cliffy** said. I started watching because it’s “Trek,” and I continue to watch because, optimistic fool that I am, I figure it has to stop sucking some time. Of course, I gave up on “Voyager” much earlier than this, and I’m starting to wonder why I’m still watching “Enterprise.” I’m going to be seriously pissed when the shoe finally drops on “Firefly.” ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/24 "2002-12-13T00:06:17Z")
Started because it was Trek, but honestly if it weren’t for Hoshi and The weekly Enterprise thread here i probably wouldn’t be setting my VCR before i go to class Wed nights. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/25 "2002-12-13T00:13:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\* if it weren’t for… The weekly Enterprise thread… \*\* YOU HEAR THAT BERMAN, YOU WEASEL? I WANT A KICKBACK! (email me off list for the address to send the check.) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/26 "2002-12-13T00:20:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrDeth \* > \*\*ALL? Only one, AFAIK- but since she is the main reason why I watch the show…😉 \*\* Well, Seven of Nine was like that too. It’s just so Baywatch-blatant, and as I don’t fit their main demographic (I like tough chicks, not supermodel chicks) it just irritates me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/27 "2002-12-13T00:56:21Z")
I don’t read or watch science fiction to be sexually intertained, but I’d never admit it here… Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/28 "2002-12-13T00:59:55Z")
Watched it initially because it was Trek. But I’m a self-hating trekkie. When I watch nerds being asked ST trivia questions, 90% of the time I know the answers, **but I keep that to myself!** I can’t help having a good memory and knowing a thing or two about science, but I never hesitate to fall back into Shatner on SNL mode… So I keep watching (so far anyway) because its a decent show. I also still love the whole pre-‘original series’ thing. But quality counts more than Trek-ness. I still watch TNG and DS9 reruns, but Voyager? I never rooted so hard for the Borg… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/29 "2002-12-13T02:17:54Z")
I enjoyed Voyager. There was the Warp 10 Lizards episode, but there was also Spock’s Brain, Wesley Crusher, and Gul Dukat in human drag. ^:)^ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/30 "2002-12-13T04:09:13Z")
Ooooh, yeah…the warp 10 Lizards. That was a cool show. Most of _V-ger_ sucked. Rick Berman’s Address: _ **Lord High God Of All Star Trek Stuff Since The Real Guy Already Died** _ Is that what you meant? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/31 "2002-12-13T13:19:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \* > \*\* Most of _V-ger_ sucked. > > \*\* I think I’ll not step on anybody’s thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/32 "2002-12-13T13:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GuanoLad \* > \*\*Well, Seven of Nine was like that too. > > It’s just so Baywatch-blatant, and as I don’t fit their main demographic (I like tough chicks, not supermodel chicks) it just irritates me. \*\* That was one of the reasons DS:9 rocked the house was that the female characters were pretty strong and resourceful and the actresses were really good. No pointless eye candy for the hard up nerds. I miss DS:9. Hurry up with those damn DVD’s. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/33 "2002-12-13T13:59:32Z")
elf-Do you think they killed Sisko off and dispersed all the characters to prevent DS9 movies, or will his return make a great first DS9 flick? ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/34 "2002-12-13T16:04:35Z")
I’m gonna have to say I agree with a lot of people in this thread in that I watch ENT just 'cuz it is Trek. However, I also agree that season 2 has been sucking extremely hard; harder than {insert shameless innuendo}. Prior to season 2’s crapathon of episodes, I couldn’t wait to watch ENT on Wednesday nights. Now I don’t mind waiting 'til the Sunday night re-run. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/35 "2002-12-13T16:53:58Z")
> [@](#): > > That was one of the reasons DS:9 rocked the house was that the female characters were pretty strong and resourceful and the actresses were really good. I was kind of pissed when they killed off Jadzia… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/36 "2002-12-13T17:14:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > \*\*I was kind of pissed when they killed off Jadzia… \*\* Terry Farrell (sp?) quit and they had to write her out. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/37 "2002-12-13T19:53:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > I’m going to be seriously pissed when the shoe finally drops on “Firefly.” Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but: [http://timminear.net/](http://timminear.net/) ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/38 "2002-12-13T23:08:22Z")
1. I like all things **Trek.** 2. Scott Bakula. 3. Connor Trinneer 4. Porthos ---
**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/39 "2002-12-14T00:01:36Z")
What I like about the series:[ul][li]The opening credits – the song :o **and** the montage from sailing ship to starship.[/li][li]Humans are still learning about space – the crew (and Archer) were very much more naive than they are now (_and I think that’s a deliberate choice of the writers, not just bad acting_)[/li][li]It’s cool to see the primitive high-tech stuff – well, you know what I mean – and see how later things evolved.[/li][li]that actions have **consequences** – you can’t just kill the bad guy, kiss the princess and leave (or, as in TOS, destroy the foundation of entire civilizations and then leave…). [/ul] [/li] What I dislike about the series:[ul][li]some of the crappy writing (especially in the last few episodes) hasn’t lived up to the concept/idea behind the episode.[/li][li]On a meta-level, I dislike the whining on various “trek boards” about how non-canon it is and how they get things wrong because it doesn’t match some off-hand comment in some episode of the fourth season of ST:TNG[/li][li]on a meta-level, I’m amazed at the actual hatred expressed for Berman and Braga [/li][/ul] So all in all, I like the show, but I’m finding the quality of the episodes a bit sporadic. On the other hand, if you go back and watch The Original Series, that had a fairly high coefficient of crap too! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235/40 "2002-12-14T00:09:16Z")
I saw an episode this week. The moral appeared to be if you slap women around, they’ll have sex with you. I don’t like the show at all [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-you-watch-enterprise-its-good-or-its-trek-an-entertainment-poll/142235.md?page=3)