# Why does Ann Coulter spew this... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2005, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152 "2005-01-05T04:33:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/101 "2005-01-07T04:53:16Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > If factual accuracy is a concern of yours, then yes, you should get his name right. You have shown your disdain for mere ‘facts’, though. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping me prove my point. Thank you, **Brutus.** You’ve been most helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/102 "2005-01-07T05:04:39Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > Why? Do you take either of them seriously? Oh, I don’t take Franken seriously. But Coulter and Franken are two different fish. Coulter is a demagogue, peddling hate to everyone who reads her columns and everyone who watches her on TV. And that hate is directed not just at celebrities like the Dixie Chicks or politicians like Max Cleland, but at _everyone_ who disagrees with her. Any liberal, anyone who believe in religous tolerance, anyone who doesn’t salute Our Glorious Leader. Me, in other words. You may not take Coulter seriously, but there are plenty of people who agree with her who do. Every single member of Coulter’s audience has her voice in their ear telling them that I’m evil, that I’m a traitor, that I hate America, that my opinion is to be automatically dismissed not on its merits but because of who I am, and that the best way to talk to me is with a baseball bat. _That’s_ why I take her seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/103 "2005-01-07T05:05:18Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > I’d like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping me prove my point. Thank you, **Brutus.** You’ve been most helpful. Does that make me a Libertarian, too? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/104 "2005-01-07T05:13:20Z")
I think it’s fair to say that Michael Moore is the Rush Limbaugh of the Left. As for the Ann Coulter of the Left, I really can’t think of anyone. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t someone on the left who acts like her, just that I’m not aware of them. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/105 "2005-01-07T05:30:52Z")
Socialists rarely get air time. Coulter is as far from the hypothetical center as a socialist. Socialism is to the left of the hypothetical center. By simple logic we see that the leftist version of Coulter simply isn’t getting frequent airtime. If we are talking simple anger and willingness to make outrageous and offensive statements I’d say that Bill Mahr is the closest you are going to get. If you are talking about relative offensive exhibited by the opposing side to the speaker I’d say that everybody to the left of Colmes counts as offensive to the pundits of the right. Conversely everybody to the right of Colmes counts as offensive to the pundits of the left. In both cases out past the Rush/Moore lines offense reaches a critical level making subdivisions meaningless. Froth has formed already. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/106 "2005-01-07T06:35:57Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Is anyone surprised Brutus buys into Coulter’s shit? He’s certainly the first person who comes to mind when I think of who laps up her vomitous dreck. Betcha he’s got all her centerfolds in the bathroom, too. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/107 "2005-01-07T06:41:52Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > This is just the old, familiar “equivalence” game that conservatives like to play. Michael Moore is their chosen “extreme spokesman on the left” that they want to establish as “equivalent” to Ann Coulter, even though he’s not nearly the vitriol-spewing harpie that Coulter is. > They used the exact same technique against Kerry – the whole point of the Swifties was to establish Bush and Kerry as “two guys whose Vietnam era service is disputed” rather than a combat veteran who earned medals for bravery and injury vs. an AWOL Texas Air National Guard draft dodger. > > Works very well with the broadcast-only gucks, not so well online. I’m curious. Do you see any irony, any at all, in the way you’ve characterized these two men, especially in light of the statement that preceded the characterization? I’m just asking because my irony meter just exploded. You castigate the Republicans for not playing fair while at the same time vilifying Bush in terms not supported by facts. (i.e. you can scream A.W.O.L. all you want, but that’s nothing more than a 35 years after the fact spin put on unclear circumstances, Bush was never charged with being A.W.O.L. back then, while at the same time, I’m not sure where you got “draft dodger”, was Bush in Europe not inhaling with Clinton or something? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/108 "2005-01-07T10:36:32Z")
Weirdave, do you or do you not think that Kerry and Bush had Vietnam war service that is equivalent on any sensible level? ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/109 "2005-01-07T10:51:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Then why did you cite Michael Moore saying pretty much exactly the same thing as an example of something that’s just as objectionable as Anne Coulter’s “convert 'em or kill 'em” stance? > > Yeah, that’s something to be _real_ proud of. > > And the point of this link is… Anyway, Michael Moores portrayal of Iraqi resistance as ‘freedom fighters’ comparable to the forefathers of the United States is as ludicrous as any statement make by Ann Coulter. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/110 "2005-01-07T11:34:53Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > Why? Do you take either of them seriously? Yes, I take Franken quite seriously. His book “Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them” is a very strong piece of journalism, leavened well with humor, but he does a great job of documenting a lot of flat-out lies by right-wing commentators, including the sick harpy under discussion, as well as Bush Admin. figure. Just because someone has wit doesn’t mean he’s wrong on the facts. Really, have you READ any of Franken’s stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/111 "2005-01-07T11:43:14Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > I’m curious. Do you see any irony, any at all, in the way you’ve characterized these two men, especially in light of the statement that preceded the characterization? I’m just asking because my irony meter just exploded. You castigate the Republicans for not playing fair while at the same time vilifying Bush in terms not supported by facts. (i.e. you can scream A.W.O.L. all you want, but that’s nothing more than a 35 years after the fact spin put on unclear circumstances, Bush was never charged with being A.W.O.L. back then, while at the same time, I’m not sure where you got “draft dodger”, was Bush in Europe not inhaling with Clinton or something? Short answer: what Prichester said. Long answer: The circumstances of Bush’s AWOL are unclear only if you make a REAL effort to buy Pubbie spin on the matter. IIRC, nobody from Bush’s unit can remember him serving during the AWOL period. Several people have come forth to say positively that he did not. Bush has never been able to produce any evidence that he did. A reasonable person must conclude he was AWOL. And his service in the Texas Air National Guard was just a rich kid’s way of dodging the draft, back in those days. Fact is, John Kerry was in Vietnam dodging bullets, running TOWARD the gunfire to help his boatmates. Dubya was a well-connected drunken rich kid on a toot. There is NO equivalence there. None. Zip. Nada. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/112 "2005-01-07T11:47:39Z")
I have only heard the esteemed Ms. Coulter rarely, and each time thought she was a _comedian_ attempting a hijack of a chat show or news discussion programme. Indeed, the only leftist Americans I can think of who would come anywhere close to her equivalent are comedians like the late Bill Hicks. (“I found myself in the weird position of being _for_ the war, but _against_ the troops. Saddam said he wanted to see Bush’s head blown off kicked down the street like a football. I thought, wow, me and Saddam, we’re like _that_…”) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/113 "2005-01-07T12:02:39Z")
Leftist Ann Coulter? Practically any randomly chosen [feminazi](http://www.livejournal.com/community/feminazis/) can give Ann a run for her money. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/114 "2005-01-07T14:23:38Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Yes, I take Franken quite seriously. His book “Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them” is a very strong piece of journalism, leavened well with humor, but he does a great job of documenting a lot of flat-out lies by right-wing commentators, including the sick harpy under discussion, as well as Bush Admin. figure. Just because someone has wit doesn’t mean he’s wrong on the facts. Really, have you READ any of Franken’s stuff? I own _Lies: And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right_ and _Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot: And Other Observations_. His chapter in the former about Coulter and lying via endnotes was very interesting. That doesn’t mean I have to take his commentary – and that’s what we’re talking about here, commentary-- seriously. Al Franken is an ass. Funny, but an ass nonetheless. What he calls ‘good natured ribbing’ (e.g. fucking with Barbara Bush, fucking with the Bob Jones University people and using Harvard letterhead to do so) I call being an ass. I’ve never read any of Coulter’s books and don’t plan to do so, either. I’ve read her weekly columns and that’s more than enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/115 "2005-01-07T14:33:14Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > I own _Lies: And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right_ Well, I OWN a copy of Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them, too! And my copy is BIGGER than your copy!!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/116 "2005-01-07T14:37:11Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > …Betcha he’s got all her centerfolds in the bathroom, too. Just a second there, **rjung**! When the Hair Apparent was but a wee tyke, I kept oil of ipecac in the bathroom, in case a medical emergency (ie, inadvernent poisoning) required immediate, violent projectile vomiting. Friend **Brutus** might simply be a cautious sort, keeping such images at hand for a similar emergency. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/117 "2005-01-07T14:56:50Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Weirdave, do you or do you not think that Kerry and Bush had Vietnam war service that is equivalent on any sensible level? You (and Evil Captor) both spectacularly miss the point. It’s not about their service during Vietnam, it’s about using glowing verbage when you’re talking about your guy and slinging mud when talking about the other guy, yet continuing to whine that the Republicans are fighting dirty. It boggles the mind that you can’t see pot, kettle, black here. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/118 "2005-01-07T15:03:28Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Well, I OWN a copy of Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them, too! And my copy is BIGGER than your copy!!! 😛 Oh, I see. We’ve got ourselves an old-fashioned book measuring contest, huh? Hold on while I whip mine out. Does anyone have a ruler? On second though, make that a yardstick. Oh yeah, it’s like _that_. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/119 "2005-01-07T15:46:58Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > you can scream A.W.O.L. all you want, but that’s nothing more than a 35 years after the fact spin put on unclear circumstances [Don’t fuck with Cecil.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030411.html). > [@](#): > > Bush was never charged with being A.W.O.L. back then So therefore he didn’t do it? Albert DiSalvo was never charged with being the Boston Strangler, either. > [@](#): > > was Bush in Europe not inhaling with Clinton or something? No, in Texas getting drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-ann-coulter-spew-this/283152/120 "2005-01-07T15:49:39Z")
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