One of which was, of course, set during WWI in 1917. So is the idea that even though the film is portraying soldiers in a WWI foxhole facing imminent death, we should not see them smoking?
Did you Google?
The Invisible Man (2020) - Rated R for some strong bloody violence, and language.
Smoking!? In an R rated movie!? Jeeves, bring me my fainting couch.
Funny, when you click on the titles this is what you get -
Bad Boys For Life - MPAA Rating: R for strong bloody violence, language throughout, sexual references and brief drug use.
(Rating bulletin 2611 (Cert #50335), 1/8/2020)
1917 - MPAA Rating: R for violence, some disturbing images, and language.
(Rating bulletin 2600 (Cert #52437), 10/16/2019)
The Invisible Man - MPAA Rating: R for some strong bloody violence, and language.
(Rating bulletin 2611 (Cert #52535), 1/8/2020)
Those are from the MPAA, and are essentially why a film got the rating it did. My guess is that smoking is way down the list on why a movie would get a more mature rating, compared to sex, nudity, violence, drug use, and language.
For most movies, there is a “Parents Guide” on IMDB, which goes into details on various content elements which parents may not want their kids to see; those include a section on “Alcohol, Drugs, & Smoking.” In my experience, those Parents Guides are fairly exhaustive on that information, particularly for well-known/widely-seen films.
Of the three films in question, only one of them even has any mention of smoking in its guide, and even then, it looks to be two instances:
1917:
It’s a well known fact that absolutely no one in world war one smoked. 1917 was historically inaccurate. Thanks, big tobacco!
I’m 65, a former pack a day smoker for 40 years. I loved smoking. I loved the taste, the smell, the high when the nicotine and 400 chemicals hit my brain. I stopped when bronchitis landed me in the ER at 1 am. If that hadn’t happened I’d still be smoking. Cuz it’s an addiction.
You are right, Those don’t get a Mpaa smoking rating as the smoking is either considered period or not significant.
Some parents group mentioned smoking but not the Mpaa. Sorry, I was wrong.
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The percentage of PG-13 movies with tobacco incidents increased from 38% in 2018 to 43% in 2019, substantially above the historical low of 35% in 2016.
** In 2019, the number of tobacco incidents in the average youth-rated movie with tobacco (34 incidents) was 30% lower than in 2018 (48 incidents). The number in the average R-rated movie with tobacco (63 incidents) was nearly 50% above the level in 2018 (42 incidents) and represented a historical high for R-rated movies.*
** Nearly one in four movies rated G or PG contained tobacco incidents in 2019 (8 of 35 movies). The total number of tobacco incidents in movies rated PG increased from 2018 to 2019 (from 17 to 108), the highest number in ten years (118 in 2009).*
** R-rated movies included 63% more tobacco incidents in 2019 (2,631) than they did in 2018 (1,610). The number of incidents in R-rated movies in 2019 was 34% more than the number in 2002 (1,968) and represented a historical high.*
So note that The number of incidents in R-rated movies in 2019 was 34% more than the number in 2002 (1,968) and represented a historical high.
Then why did you post that they did and why did you act indignant when we asked for cites?
He was mistaken and he admitted it and apologized. What more do guy want?
The more I would want is for him to not make a different unsupported claim in the sentence immediately prior to the sentence where he apologizes for making unsupported claims.
Did a parents group mention smoking? Why doesn’t he cite that? I’m far past the point of taking his word for stuff like this after so many of his claims in this thread have been shown to be factually false.
A Pall Mall would hit the spot.
I am 73 and have smoked since I was 10. I can never figure out why I keep going back to smoking. I quit often for 2 or 3 days and suffer no detectable withdrawal. I always quit when my congestion gets bad and after a couple of days my breathing gets better and I resume smoking. I hate it! I tend to think that it is replacing some need I have that I am not full filling…Smoking allows me to procrastinate! If I don’t smoke I can’t stop doing things and find it very hard to just relax. I spend close to 500.00 a month on cigarettes. But when I quit smoking I spend even more than that on bull shit projects that suddenly become important. When I don’t smoke, I become obsessive about other things, like chasing women, buying wood, tools, computers, I plan to try again quitting, this week. Wish me luck!
Wow. I spend less than that in overpriced legal cannabis and I smoke daily.
Ehh, between my wife and I, I probably spend close to that on smokes. I can spend close to that on cannabis, too, but it ain’t legal here.
I’m under 70, why do I still smoke? Umm, addiction? My mom smoked when she was pregnant with me, and I grew up in a house of smokers. I do not know a time before nicotine. I still try to quit. If I’m ever successful, it will be a weird new world to me.
If there’s no pleasure derived from smoking outside of stopping withdrawal, why did we start smoking it in the first place? Not just in terms of “since the the Surgeon General’s report in the '60s,” - why would humans ever have cultivated tobacco in the first place?
Aliens came down and showed us some movies.
Maybe twenty years ago I took a vacation to Istanbul. I went to a hookah place. It was on a terrace covered in vines and the hookah had ice water in it. It was fresh tobacco and presumably not hybridized with a major dose of nicotine. They also put a little bit of dried apple and a low heat burning lump of something on top to keep the fire lit. It was so relaxing and nice. I could see doing that somewhat regularly. The buzz was mild and pleasant.
A regular cigarette makes me ill and tastes like crap to me and if I inhale the buzz is horrible. Obviously this is my experience alone.
I’ve done the hookah thing. The lump of charcoal keeps your wet/moist shisha burning. You make huge clouds of exhaled smoke and feel like your floating off in the cloud. Fun stuff.