# Why does Kanye West continue to try and test the boundaries of assholish behavior? \[VMA Spoiler\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991 "2009-09-14T01:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/181 "2009-09-15T13:31:39Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I have the feeling that she is well-aware that she is doofusy-looking. While the [video](http://www.youtube.com/user/taylorswift) in question is more than a little cliche, I think that noone can deny that she embraces her doofusosity. I don’t know. When I watch that video, I see an extremely pretty girl in some ugly glasses. Note that she also plays the pretty “cheerleader girlfriend” in the video as well… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/182 "2009-09-15T13:54:04Z")
I don’t see any doofosity. I see a piece of cheesecake with $5000 hair and makeup wearing pretend nerd glasses. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/183 "2009-09-15T15:08:38Z")
I hope he does take some time off. For once, I think a celebrity chicken run into rehab might do someone some good. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/184 "2009-09-15T15:17:14Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Jay asked Kanye what his mom would think about what he said to Taylor last night. > > Kanye’s mother died rather suddenly after surgery-gone-wrong earlier this year. > > While I think Kanye is an epic douche and perhaps Jay had a point, that was low. [Video here.](http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/transcript-kanye-tells-jay-leno-i-need-to-take-time-off-and-figure-out-how-to-improve/) That and and I heard (yes, it’s just a rumor, take it as you will), that his mother spoiled him rotten and is the one who raised him to have such an inflated ego. So she’d probably be like, “That’s my boy!” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/185 "2009-09-15T15:22:49Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Kanye’s mother died rather suddenly after surgery-gone-wrong earlier this year. It was almost two years ago. Losing your mother is difficult, I’m sure, but the wound isn’t quite that fresh. > [@Nutty\_Bunny](#): > > But when was he booked? We simulposted, but it looks like he was booked more than a month ago. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/186 "2009-09-15T15:24:24Z")
[“I’ve always worshipped the ground he walked on,” Donda says. “People could say I spoiled Kanye. I don’t think so. He was very much indulged.”](http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5940044/head_of_the_class/print) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/187 "2009-09-15T19:03:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t see any doofosity. I see a piece of cheesecake with $5000 hair and makeup wearing pretend nerd glasses. It’s the teeth, more than anything. I think she’s hot. Way hotter than Beyonce, who’s looking a too tarty, I’m afraid to say, what with all the prediliction for fetish wear in her vids lately. Aah, well, Kelly Rowland was always the hot one in DC, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/188 "2009-09-15T19:12:39Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > That and and I heard (yes, it’s just a rumor, take it as you will), that his mother spoiled him rotten and is the one who raised him to have such an inflated ego. So she’d probably be like, “That’s my boy!” My parents worship their kids and would say they spoiled us, but if I was cruel to someone they would have expressed great disappointment and disapproval. Pinning this on his mother - who I sincerely doubt would have approved of such a mean stunt - is fucking lame. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/189 "2009-09-15T19:24:21Z")
The way Kanye welled up and looked sincerely chastened after the question about his mom, he certainly didn’t give the impression that he thought she would approve. I worship and spoil my kids too, but that doesn’t mean I don’t set standards of behavior. And no matter how much his mom may or may not have spoiled him, Kanye West is now a grown-ass man, and is responsible for his own actions. Having said that, I think I’m starting get a little tired of the Kanye bashing. Yes, he behaved like an ass (possibly because he was in a bi-polar, manic upswing), but it’s not like he killed anybody, and it looked to me on Leno like he was honestly contrite about it. I don’t even think Chris Brown got as much media opprobrium for beating the hell out of Rihanna. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/190 "2009-09-15T19:37:06Z")
So, am I to understand that A Flock of Seagulls took home no awards, then? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/191 "2009-09-15T20:14:23Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > So, am I to understand that A Flock of Seagulls took home no awards, then? They won best rap video. Personally, I’m glad that this huge step in a new direction worked out so well for them. 50 Cent, on the other hand, is totally pissed. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/192 "2009-09-15T22:20:38Z")
[why our President totally rocks](http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/) ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/193 "2009-09-15T22:33:31Z")
The worst part about all this is that Kanye interrupted her right before she was about to pledge her undying love and devotion to me. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/194 "2009-09-16T01:06:46Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > [why our President totally rocks](http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/) \*“…except PETA!” \* Classic! ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/195 "2009-09-16T06:11:01Z")
\*\* [Sarcasm] Don’t you people _understand??_ This is a man. A broken sad man. A broken sad man who lost his mother. My god, hasn’t he suffered enough??? And now you all _victimize him further?_. You should be ashamed of yourselves. That’s right. You should. The very fact that this poor broken creature can even draw himself out of bed and face this harsh cruel awful world every day is reason enough why he himself should have been given a Moon Man. Once again, making the victim pay the price for society’s ills. That poor, poor, sad broken man. He has suffered as no other man in America has. Those tears shed on Jay Leno? Those were real tears. Those were the fluids of pain. The emiss of agonies untold. [/Sarcasm]\*\* The accurate descriptor seems to be " Inexcusable ". Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/196 "2009-09-16T13:58:03Z")
Heard on the radio: Kanye didn’t actually apologize to Swift till she was asked on the View if he did. She said no, and then he called in. He apologized to the public, but not to the person he hurt. … yeaaah. ---
**Author:** ![TheMadHun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@TheMadHun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMadHun)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/197 "2009-09-16T14:20:12Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Why does Kanye West continue to try and test the boundaries of assholish behavior? [VMA Spoiler] … > God, he’s such a fucking ass. I think he’s not very bright. He can’t speak normally. He seems not so much immature or self centered as just slow mentally. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/198 "2009-09-16T15:13:07Z")
> **[Kanye West calls Swift with 'sincere apology' - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/15/kanye.west.apology/index.html)** > > Kanye West called Taylor Swift with a "very sincere" apology Tuesday for interrupting her acceptance speech at Sunday's MTV Video Music Awards, Swift said. Cite for the apology. Apparently, he didn’t call in, he called her after the show. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/199 "2009-09-16T15:17:01Z")
If we’re going for rumors, then according to my sister and everyone she knows in the Greater New Orleans restaurant community, Kanye’s a rude and arguably racist ass who doesn’t tip. She demurs this may be due to his alcohol abuse. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/200 "2009-09-16T15:53:10Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > [Kanye West calls Swift with 'sincere apology' - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/15/kanye.west.apology/index.html) > > Cite for the apology. Apparently, he didn’t call in, he called her after the show. Since the offense was public, I think the apology should have been, too. I do think it was likely preplanned for publicity reasons, though. I don’t think Swift was actually involved, though. She’s not that good an actress. Heck, neither is Beyonce. And the only way it could logically work is if both were savvy enough to know that nobody would suspect them. Beyonce, maybe. Swift? Hardly. Finally, it really surprises me how many people have not heard of Swift. Did you not watch Idol and hear people comparing others to her? ETA: and Kanye is stupid enough to do think it was a good idea, even without the publicity thing. That’s how somebody so incompitant wouldn’t accidentally reveal the conspiracy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991.md?page=11)