# Why does Kanye West continue to try and test the boundaries of assholish behavior? \[VMA Spoiler\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991 "2009-09-14T01:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/201 "2009-09-16T16:29:26Z")
If I did watch American Idol I wouldn’t admit it. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/202 "2009-09-16T16:31:29Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I’m another one voting for staged. The VMAs stage one stupid, try-to-be-jaw-dropping event for each award show. Sometimes all the participants are not clued in. I don’t think Eminem was in on the teabagging and I’m not sure poor Taylor was in on it either, because she really did look like she wanted to cry. > > Then again, she and Beyonce wore matching dresses and the camera was set up juuuust right for the two up on stage, and both Beyonce and Taylor are actresses. . .. > > Totally staged. Agreed…but I’m a cynical old fart 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/203 "2009-09-16T23:54:56Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > So are Kanye, Taylor Swift and Obama going to have to have a beer together or what? > > Is she old enough to have a beer in DC? > > If I were Obama I would just have Taylor and Beyonce. Well, so would I if I were President, but Michelle would kill him… …oh, you mean… …nevermind ;). ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/204 "2009-09-17T00:19:53Z")
I know this board is about fighting ignorance, but I’m rather sad that I’ve now learned enough about Kayne West to know I’ve been reading his name wrong for years. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/205 "2009-09-18T18:34:20Z")
More info coming out to suggest it may have been staged. Kanye and Swift have the same agent. And so does 50 cent. The riff between Kanye and 50 cent about who’s album would sell more? Staged by the agent. The 3 of them already admitted it. So I wouldn’t put it past the same agent to stage this. Why would he do it? Swift’s album sales have been through the roof this week. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/206 "2009-09-18T19:15:18Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > I know this board is about fighting ignorance, but I’m rather sad that I’ve now learned enough about Kayne West to know I’ve been reading his name wrong for years. Well, you’re spelling it incorrectly now. Does that count? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/207 "2009-09-18T20:07:45Z")
Totally. It’s spelled D-o-u-c-h-e. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/208 "2009-09-18T20:22:48Z")
I assumed he spelled it the way he’s been reading it all these years to illustrate his point. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/209 "2009-09-18T21:23:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, you’re spelling it incorrectly now. Does that count? Yeah, that was deliberate. I always thought it was Kayne West. Turns out it’s Kanye West. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/210 "2009-09-22T20:51:32Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I don’t know who Taylor Swift is but when Kanye handed her the mic back she should have asked him if he liked fish sticks. or mudkipz ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/211 "2009-09-22T21:20:25Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Those tears shed on Jay Leno? Those were real tears. Those were the fluids of pain. The emiss of agonies untold. I liked Colbert’s comment about the tears getting lost in the maze of hair cut into Kanye’s head. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/212 "2009-09-23T00:25:59Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > More info coming out to suggest it may have been staged. > > Kanye and Swift have the same agent. > And so does 50 cent. > > The riff between Kanye and 50 cent about who’s album would sell more? > Staged by the agent. The 3 of them already admitted it. > > So I wouldn’t put it past the same agent to stage this. > Why would he do it? > Swift’s album sales have been through the roof this week. Ding ding! We have a winner. Still, Kanye was stupid as fuck to go along with it. Wonder what he got in return for degrading his public image yet more? ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/213 "2009-09-23T00:35:23Z")
Wait. Yeah there’s always a ‘story’ from these lame live MTV events; Are we saying they were they _counting on_ Swift to win? Suggesting it was planned before hand? Not that it would surprise me… I don’t know if the winner’s are as deeply kept secret ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/214 "2009-09-23T01:20:29Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Wait. Yeah there’s always a ‘story’ from these lame live MTV events; Are we saying they were they _counting on_ Swift to win? Suggesting it was planned before hand? Not that it would surprise me… I don’t know if the winner’s are as deeply kept secret Maybe he had several contingency plans. If Taylor Swift won, then he’d jump on the stage and grab the mic. If, on the other hand, the winner had been Captain and Tennille, he might have tossed a stuffed muskrat on the stage. There was probably some sort of playbook. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/215 "2009-09-23T01:54:46Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Maybe he had several contingency plans. If Taylor Swift won, then he’d jump on the stage and grab the mic. If, on the other hand, the winner had been Captain and Tennille, he might have tossed a stuffed muskrat on the stage. There was probably some sort of playbook. If Captain and Tennille had one, his actions would have been JUSTIFIED. ---
**Author:** ![Lunchy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Lunchy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunchy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/216 "2009-09-24T08:43:56Z")
Beyonce? Best Video of all time? Beyonce good artist? Best artist of all time? Who ya’ll kiding, a decent SINGER maybe! Best Music Video of all time!.. Parabola 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991.md?page=10)