# Why does Kanye West continue to try and test the boundaries of assholish behavior? \[VMA Spoiler\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991 "2009-09-14T01:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/21 "2009-09-14T04:11:00Z")
I personally am in awe of Kanye’s IRL trolling abilities. Man’s a genius! He elevates doing it for the lulz to a new level. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/22 "2009-09-14T04:13:20Z")
> [@drm](#): > > I wouldn’t even call it one of the listenable. I find it unpleasant to listen to and it’s really repetative. The video itself is nothing but three girls dancing (to steal a line from seinfeld) like a full body dry heave set to music. Genius it isn’t. Add to that, ripped off from a Bob Fosse routine. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/23 "2009-09-14T04:21:04Z")
Well, I like both the video and the song. It’s, IMO, much much better than the fluffy garbage that comes from Taylor Swift. But it’s all subjective. And thinking Kanye West was right about the music doesn’t mean I don’t also think he was a giant asshole and that it was a terrible thing to do to the poor girl. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/24 "2009-09-14T04:24:03Z")
What a colossal classless fucking asshole. I don’t care about any of the music, but that young…I fee sorry for her. She looked like she was going to cry. I’d pay some nice dough to see someone beat the living shit out of Kuntye West. And then hold him down as Taylor Swift sings right into his face spitting the whole time. What a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/25 "2009-09-14T04:24:44Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > So in case anybody hasn’t heard, Kanye West made a douche of himself, again, this time at the 2009 VMA Ceremony. Didn’t he do this at a previous VMA show? In any case, I agree with **Palooka** in that it might be a pre-arranged “happening.” ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/26 "2009-09-14T04:26:19Z")
I read that the people in charge asked him to leave so I don’t think so. > **[MTV | Homepage - Shows & Schedules](https://www.mtv.com/?xrs=PPM-18-10caf1c)** > > MTV brings viewers the best in lifestyle and competition reality shows, plus live events featuring the biggest names in entertainment. > [@](#): > > Kanye West was asked to leave Radio City Music Hall not long after he crashed the MTV Video Music Awards stage during Taylor Swift’s acceptance speech for Best Female Video. > > The rapper rushed onto the stage and immediately protested Swift’s win, saying Beyoncé instead deserved the honor. > > “I’m sorry, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time,” 'Ye proclaimed after he pulled the microphone out of the country star’s hands. B looked stunned as she sat by in the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/27 "2009-09-14T04:32:16Z")
One day, he’s going to pick the wrong artist to interrupt. Kanye: I’m sorry, Anthrax, I’m going to let you finish. … Anthrax: Kill. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/28 "2009-09-14T04:35:01Z")
I picture the South Park animated Kanye trying to inturrupt Deathklok during an awards ceremony. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucky_13/32/13209_2.png) [@Lucky\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_13)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/29 "2009-09-14T04:37:24Z")
I just saw the rerun. Beyonce just sat there looking like “OMG he did _not_ just do that.” Taylor Swift was just standing there looking like she was trying not to cry. I just wanted to smack him. What a fucking waste of oxygen. I’m glad they asked him to leave. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/30 "2009-09-14T04:45:06Z")
Where is Joe Wilson when you want him to yell out: “You Lie!”? Where? ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/31 "2009-09-14T05:14:37Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Add to that, ripped off from a Bob Fosse routine. I must confess that I’m not the worlds leading expert on Bob Fosse. Either way, the video isn’t worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/32 "2009-09-14T05:45:26Z")
[Beyonce](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621406/20090913/knowles_beyonce.jhtml) displays the class that KW so obviously lacks. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/33 "2009-09-14T05:53:51Z")
Nice. I’m not a huge fan of Beyonce’s music, but that was a nice move. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/34 "2009-09-14T06:06:49Z")
[Kanye seems to have apologized.](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621410/20090914/west_kanye.jhtml) on his blog. I vote that it was all prearranged. Don’t forget that Beyonce is an actress. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/35 "2009-09-14T06:32:32Z")
Question: who was the crowd cheeering for after his stunt? Were they cheering him or in support of Taylor Swift? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/36 "2009-09-14T06:35:43Z")
It seems they Boo’ed Kanye, and he apparently flicked the crowd off according to some of the blogs. So it seems they’re Cheering for Ms. Swift. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/37 "2009-09-14T06:47:35Z")
Yeah, I don’t think it was staged. Kanye’s just an egomaniac who can’t handle a minute where everyone’s attention isn’t on him. Beyonce was indeed a class act. And his “apology” would be more convincing if he didn’t sound like an 11-year old girl doing it. :rolleyes: From an article covering the event: > [@](#): > > Pink tweeted about her annoyance with Kanye. “Kanye West is the biggest piece of sh-t on earth. Quote me,” she wrote. “My heart goes out to Taylor Swift. She is a sweet and talented girl, and deserved her moment. She should know we all love her.” Go Pink! ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/38 "2009-09-14T07:04:34Z")
If not full-on staged, probably at least encouraged at some level to drum up interest for the vee-_huh_-_whats_. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/39 "2009-09-14T07:13:51Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Listen, Kanye makes the president hate black people. And you can imagine how uncomfortable that is for him. If SNL had the gumption, it could put together a skit featuring Obama on Kanye West: “I don’t know, not having seen the video, what role race played, but I’m friends with Beyonce and the MTV judges acted _stupidly_ in not giving the award to her.” And on Serena: “I don’t know, not having watched the US Open, what role race played in that, but I’m friends with Serena and the line judge acted _stupidly_ in calling a foot fault against her.” ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991/40 "2009-09-14T10:05:38Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > If SNL had the gumption, it could put together a skit featuring Obama on Kanye West: “I don’t know, not having seen the video, what role race played, but I’m friends with Beyonce and the MTV judges acted _stupidly_ in not giving the award to her.” And on Serena: “I don’t know, not having watched the US Open, what role race played in that, but I’m friends with Serena and the line judge acted _stupidly_ in calling a foot fault against her.” I had to read this several times before I got what was being referenced!:smack::smack::smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-kanye-west-continue-to-try-and-test-the-boundaries-of-assholish-behavior-vma-spoiler/509991.md?page=3)