Uh huh. I’ve dealt with all of these subjects. Your f*cking problem?
When you say you’ve dealt with all of those subjects, do you mean there are vampires in your neck of the woods? At this point, your previous arguments offer nothing to prevent me from interpreting your comment as a claim for real vampires as a “subject” you’ve dealt with.
The attitude you would call “My f*cking problem” is that you seem wild-eyed with outrage and would rather make things up (HH beating Lo, his age) and call us names than consider our points of view. What do you hope to achieve? Should we all go down to the local library and burn copies of Lolita? Other books by Nabokov? Daisy Miller? Should we rend our flesh as penance for the crime of admiring a work of fiction?
Seriously? Are you trying to argue that reading a book such as Lolita causes harm? If that’s your point, you’re not doing a very good job.
If you are trying to convince us that you are a better person for being so angry about the crimes of Lolita, again, not effective.
Signed, another friendly neighborhood WOMAN misogynist.
Heck, now I feel like reading Lolita just to piss off Anniee.
And I hope the book has oodles and oodles of child rape in it (okay, I know it doesn’t, but sanctimony bugs me).
Oh, I get hysterical too, Anniee.
Oh can you feel it?
(Oh can you feel it?)
Do you believe it?
(Do you believe it?)
It’s such a magical mysteria when you get that feelin’
Am I still allowed to describe the new Ashton Kutcher movie as “hysterical?” Next you’ll be telling me I can’t use “mysteria” in every day conversation!
Man, I have GOT to read that book…
He was also the head of the Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography (aka the Meese Commission), which (among other things) largely caused the removal of adult magazines from convenience stores.
What about A Clockwork Orange? Just because some of us like that book, doesn’t mean we advocate or like rape, gangs, or beating up homeless people.
Lighten up.
Yeah, I’m female. Thank you smv
I realize Romance books (no matter who is reading them-and yes, I was making a generalization. I even apologized for it, there was no diss) are soft-core porn. However, as someone ponted out, they are meant to titillate. Lolita is not.
moves Lolita up a notch on must-read list
Yeah, I’m female. Thank you smv
I realize Romance books (no matter who is reading them-and yes, I was making a generalization. I even apologized for it, there was no diss) are soft-core porn. However, as someone ponted out, they are meant to titillate. Lolita is not. Point being, flowery language itself does not make something pornographic.
moves Lolita up a notch on must-read list
KGS- actually. a few fund’ists (my new non-offensive abbreviation for fundies G) DID point out the Paul aspect; I’m sure D James Kennedy did.
RE the “misogyny” shown by the female Dopers. Why, they must all be self-hating women! The kind who aren’t outraged by words like “hysteria”.
For the record, I am also female.
And I’m only a misogynist on the weekends.
I just checked the afterword by Nabokov, where he comments on a lot of things that have surfaced in this thread. My edition is in Swedish (unfortunately), so I’ll have to do a rough translation of a key sentence:
“His love for nymphettes is only one of the things I dislike about Humbert.”
I do hope Anniee never gets her hands on Highsmith’s books about Ripley.
I’m still at NU, and that’s the same class I had him in. It was spring of my freshman year (2001). He was indeed very enthusiastic about the book. If I’d had Nabokov as a professor (as he did), I’m sure I would’ve been as well. 
IIRC somepeople (VN himself) says the book is about Europe (HH) being seduced by America. Old world/New World so of course the new world is much younger than the old world.
Does Lo die at the end of the novel? It’s been awhile since I read it but I don’t remember it that way. (the Anniee way)
Zebra, it’s mentioned in the forward.
Anniee, wait-you’ve never even READ the book?
So how the hell can you comment on it then?
Just curious-how old are you?
She read it–but she doesn’t know how to use the “quote” button. She was quoting someone else who said they didn’t read it.
If you want to quote someone else’s statement in a non-confusing way, don’t start a new reply–instead, hit the quote button at the bottom of the post you want to quote. It will then show up in your reply box and you can delete any irrelevant parts. If you quote this way, the poster’s name shows up on the quote and no one is confused as to who said what.
I think she was quoting me. I believe I’m the only one who started a sentence in this thread as “Seriously, though I haven’t read Lolita…” And the only reason I was saying seriously was because of my fourth definition for porn.
I think she gets married and pregnant and Humbert is devestated. And then something happens with Quilty. It’s been a while since I read it too. 
As I said earlier, everybody dies at the end. That’s why it’s a classic tragedy as well as a comedy.