# Why does satan care about corrupting humans?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387 "2015-06-12T20:55:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/61 "2015-06-16T14:24:07Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Also kept his word to the kid with the fiddle. Gotta give credit where it’s due.

That fiddle plays like shit, just so you know. Haven’t taken it out of the closet in 35 years.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/62 "2015-06-16T14:26:43Z")

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> [@Dante](#):
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> That fiddle plays like shit, just so you know. Haven’t taken it out of the closet in 35 years.

I also imagine you can’t sell it-_everyone_ knows where it came from.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/63 "2015-06-16T14:30:56Z")

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> [@Dante](#):
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> That fiddle plays like shit, just so you know. Haven’t taken it out of the closet in 35 years.

Actually, that fiddle didn’t play all that bad, it was the accompaniment that lost it for old satan. Typical atheist, can’t get together or play on key. They even screwed up satan’s band.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/64 "2015-06-16T15:10:38Z")

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> [@jimbuff314](#):
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> We’re _pitting_ Satan now? In the Pit? Isn’t that like … isn’t that like … damn it to hellfire and back, I can’t think of anything remotely comparable.

Carrying coals to Newca-- that is, carrying coals to Hell?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/65 "2015-06-16T16:22:05Z")

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Satan’s a convenient explanation for the bad things humans do, as well as unexplained scary phenomena. Rather than trying to suss out why somebody sinned against society, it’s just easier to ascribe all the malignity to a universal boogieman. Surely a benevolent God who loves his creation wouldn’t allow such things to happen. Therefore, Satan exists to take the blame, just like Santa Claus exists to explain to kids the gifts under a tree.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/66 "2015-06-16T16:24:47Z")

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Christopher Marlowe’s explanation in _Doctor Faustus_ is basically, misery loves company.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/67 "2015-06-16T16:42:04Z")

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Marlowe! I shoulda fuckin’ known. So _he’s_ the reason I just made a post in the newly re-vitalized “Damn this global warming to Hell and back” thread.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/68 "2015-06-16T17:03:25Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What regret? I thought he had The Big Plan?

There was the whole Jesus thing. According to Christian belief, that changed the rules.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/69 "2015-06-16T17:06:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There was the whole Jesus thing. According to Christian belief, that changed the rules.

That’s exactly one of the many weird things about Christian belief. Shouldn’t the Big Guy have it all figured out from the very beginning, being omniscient and all that?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/70 "2015-06-16T17:34:04Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> That’s exactly one of the many weird things about Christian belief. Shouldn’t the Big Guy have it all figured out from the very beginning, being omniscient and all that?

And some Christians believe that Jesus, being a part of the [del]Ghostly Trio[/del]Holy Trinity, _always_ existed. This means that the change in The Plan was “pre-Planned”, and that God wasn’t _really_ sorry about what went on before.

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**Author:** ![SailorHG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SailorHG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailorHG)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/71 "2015-06-16T18:04:55Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Zeus?

If you insist on “going Greek”, might you not mean Hades, God of the Underworld, instead?

Unless of course you are a disciple of Pan, who served as the prototype of the Christian devil?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/72 "2015-06-16T18:48:03Z")

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Because Satan thinks God’s way–mindless obedience to power–is the wrong way, and He tirelessly attempts to “save” humanity.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/73 "2015-06-16T19:01:04Z")

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Has anyone else read “The Deathbird” by Harlan Ellison?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/74 "2015-06-16T20:57:19Z")

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> [@Dibbs](#):
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> Satan wants as many souls as possible to spend eternity in hell with him. Simple.

Shodan (and Marlowe) get it right: misery loves company.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Almost all stories about “deals with the devil” show him doublecrossing the other guy-Satan has got the have the worst PR firm in the history of the universe. At this point, you’d have to have an I.Q. under 45 to believe he’d keep to his side of any contract.

Woah, I thought Satan _always_ followed the contract. But he loves loopholes and the appeals court is located in his turf.  
Fun fact: in Job, Satan is referred to as _the_ Satan, indicating it’s a position, not an individual. A special prosecutor if you will.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/75 "2015-06-16T21:11:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There was the whole Jesus thing. According to Christian belief, that changed the rules.

Jesus revealed the plan that always was, there were never any changes the way was always open and people found that way even before Jesus was born of Mary. There is only one way ever, and the instructions are seek and you shall find. Enoch was the first one we know about from scriptures who found they way because we know he was ‘raptured’. We also know no one can be justified by the Law, so the entire OT system was never the way.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/76 "2015-06-16T21:39:26Z")

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“You’re a rabid anti-dentite.”

You’re also in the Pit. You know who rules the Pit, don’cha?

\<_musical cue_\>

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/77 "2015-06-16T22:08:39Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Jesus revealed the plan that always was, there were never any changes the way was always open and people found that way even before Jesus was born of Mary. There is only one way ever, and the instructions are seek and you shall find. Enoch was the first one we know about from scriptures who found they way because we know he was ‘raptured’. We also know no one can be justified by the Law, so the entire OT system was never the way.

So you’re saying the path to redemption always existed, even before Jesus was born in this world? If that’s the case, what did Jesus reveal when he was here? And what purpose did his presence on Earth serve is the way was already open?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/78 "2015-06-17T02:28:24Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Zeus?

Voldemort

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/79 "2015-06-17T05:20:44Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Look, I’d be the first to say Satan has done a lot of bad stuff and all. But he did take in a three-headed dog. That should count for something.

That wasn’t Satan, that’s his second-cousin-by-marriage Hades. I know, I know, those family trees are confusing…

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> That is why we must feed him, even though he does fuck all around the village :).

Only those who don’t move away too fast. But if they move away too fast, he can always declare them impure.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-satan-care-about-corrupting-humans/722387/80 "2015-06-17T12:26:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So you’re saying the path to redemption always existed, even before Jesus was born in this world? If that’s the case, what did Jesus reveal when he was here? And what purpose did his presence on Earth serve is the way was already open?

Maybe everybody was too dense to see it until Jesus showed up. And God’s own chosen people showed him the door.

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