# Why does the great majority of Jews vote democratic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 5, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150 "2004-11-05T08:21:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Waccoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Waccoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waccoe)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/41 "2004-11-08T21:26:09Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Yes, they believe Israel has to exist, but not necessarily \*\*as a Jewish state. \*\* You’ve lost me here. You mean, it would be acceptable as an Muslim state, for example? ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/42 "2004-11-09T20:04:33Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > The 26.9/16.2% figures are the percentages in NY and CA of the _total US Jewish Population_. In response to the claim that an overwhelming majority of US Jews lived in those two states. > > The 8.7/2.9% are the percentages of Jews vs. the _total population of the state_. In response to claims that their presence would be large enough to swing the state. Oh. Well, that was simple. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/43 "2004-11-10T06:32:27Z")
> [@Waccoe](#): > > You’ve lost me here. You mean, it would be acceptable as an Muslim state, for example? No-they believe that the Jews will convert to Christianity. Do a search for “rapture” or “left behind”. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/44 "2004-11-10T06:46:05Z")
That millenarian belief is not a part of neo-conservative support of Israel. ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/45 "2004-11-10T17:22:52Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > That millenarian belief is not a part of neo-conservative support of Israel. Of course not. But the idea is that the neo-conservatives appeal to the Christian fundamentalist demographic in their support of Israel, thus having the consistent support of a large voting block (about 23%). ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/46 "2004-11-10T17:40:13Z")
From the Pat Robertson speech linked to above: “Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake-the entire world is being convulsed by a religious struggle. The fight is not about money or territory; it is not about poverty versus wealth; it is not about ancient customs versus modernity. No-the struggle is whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah God of the Bible is Supreme.” -Pat Robertson, 12/17/03 Ahhh, I see: The Jews in Israel are really the front line defense for Jehova versus the Moon God. Whew, that makes sense. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/47 "2004-11-10T17:57:51Z")
[Some scholars](http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm) believe that the pre-Islamic idol Hubal, a moon-related deity in the Middle Eastern pantheon, was elevated to Allah. Thus Robertson, like many fundamentalist Christians, believes that Allah is not the same as the Judeo-Christian Supreme Being, but a pagan imposter. (Robertson may not want to look too closely at the polytheistic origins of Judaism.) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150/48 "2004-11-10T20:11:19Z")
Ah, Robertson just cribbed from [Jack Chick.](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp)😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-great-majority-of-jews-vote-democratic/273150.md?page=2)