# Why does the Minnesota Twins logo have a C in it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 10, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639 "2009-04-10T14:15:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/41 "2009-04-13T16:46:22Z")
[The old Hartford Whalers](http://logoshak.com/~asgsport/images/Hartford_Whalers.gif) logo is pretty cool too. It’s a _W_ with a whale’s tail, but the negative space also forms an _H_ for Hartford. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/42 "2009-04-13T17:50:20Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > [The old Hartford Whalers](http://logoshak.com/~asgsport/images/Hartford_Whalers.gif) logo is pretty cool too. It’s a _W_ with a whale’s tail, but the negative space also forms an _H_ for Hartford. I tried to fix the link, but it still seems not to be working. ---
**Author:** ![Piker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Piker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Piker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/43 "2009-04-13T17:59:31Z")
> [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](#): > > Maybe even similar to how Redskins fans refer to the team, in almost every example I can think of, as “we”. As in “When \*\*WE \*\* won the Super Bowl…” I think that’s pretty much a universal characteristic of fans of all sports teams, not just the 'Skins. -Piker ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/44 "2009-04-13T18:51:12Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I tried to fix the link, but it still seems not to be working. Whoops, sorry. In case anyone still cares, here it is: [http://logoshak.com/~asgsport/images5/Whalers\_3.gif](http://logoshak.com/~asgsport/images5/Whalers_3.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/45 "2009-04-13T20:41:10Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I tried to fix the link, but it still seems not to be working. Go [here](http://logoshak.com/~asgsport/images/) and scroll down to Hartford. ---
**Author:** ![rdubya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@rdubya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rdubya)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/46 "2009-04-24T01:51:12Z")
Some great posts here. I was always told by friends and relatives who were big baseball fans-when I insisted that the m that looked like an elb also- that it was just a multicolored m. I always insisted it was both. Also regarding the U. I thought it was just “the U” for the sake of simplicity for most of their players. ---
**Author:** ![buzzcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecc23a/32.png) [@buzzcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buzzcon)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/47 "2010-04-20T20:08:15Z")
The answer to your question is very simple. The “T” and “C” stands for Twin Cities which refers to the cities of Minneapolis and St Paul. Most people in the region refer to Minneapolis and St Paul as the “Twin Cities”. That’s where the name Twins is from. ---
**Author:** ![buzzcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecc23a/32.png) [@buzzcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buzzcon)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/48 "2010-04-20T20:12:21Z")
> [@mattomic](#): > > Back to the Twins, the whole idea of Minneapolis and St Paul coming together is commemorated in their old sleeve patch, [one of the best in sports IMO,](http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/53/65/full/0r1e2z52v4sart6hpi9rdpg5j.gif) which has a “M” baseball player and a “StP” baseball player symbolically shaking hands over the Mississippi river, with the whole logo in the shape of Minnesota. > > More hidden-letter shenanigans: looked closely at a [New Jersey Devils](http://www.fitzgeraldspubnyc.net/images/NJ_Devils_Logo.jpg) logo lately? It’s an “N” and a “J” for New Jersey. You are correct. But the names of the two gentlemen shaking hands are Mini and Paul. For obvious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/49 "2010-04-20T20:28:59Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > When the Senators were moving, their owner actually planned to call them the “Twin City Twins.” Only _after_ the logo had been designed (and according to some reports, uniforms and caps manufactured) did the League reject the name as geographically vague. They could have been the Minneapolis-St. Paul Twins, which is the convention used by minor league teams which have been known as [Twins](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo-Moorhead_Twins) (or even [Triplets](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaksville-Draper-Spray_Triplets)), in the days when such teams were called that because they “represented” two communities, not because they were [farm teams](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabethton_Twins) for the major-league Twins. Speaking of Twins farm teams, the Rochester Redwings have sometimes used [this](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21RGQRJSC7L._AA280_.jpg) as an alternate cap logo. “FC” stands for [Flour City](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rochester,_New_York#Rochesterville_and_The_Flour_City), or maybe [Flower City](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rochester,_New_York#The_Flower_City). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/50 "2010-04-20T20:30:55Z")
**buzzcon** , was it really necessary to bring back a year-old thread just to give an answer that had already been given in the very first reply? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/51 "2010-04-21T04:40:19Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **buzzcon** , was it really necessary to bring back a year-old thread just to give an answer that had already been given in the very first reply? [moderating] Good point. I’ll just close it down now. (this is what happens when people reply to threads without reading them) [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/52 "2010-04-21T08:24:18Z")
It’s not closed. ♪♪ _De, de, da, da, daa-dah, I can still post_. ♪♪ BRAIN-N-N-N-SSSSSS! ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/53 "2010-04-21T12:16:32Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > BYU just has a big “Y” as their logo, btw. brighamYOUNGuniversity And then there is the big S for Penn State University. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/54 "2010-04-21T12:38:50Z")
they are the Minnesota Twins, if they had the initials MT on their cap then people would just point at them and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![klsdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ec8ea/32.png) [@klsdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/klsdad)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639/55 "2010-04-21T14:23:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **buzzcon** , was it really necessary to bring back a year-old thread just to give an answer that had already been given in the very first reply? I’ll bet you were a hall monitor 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-minnesota-twins-logo-have-a-c-in-it/492639.md?page=2)