And I think 99% of the time when anyone over the age of the age of 18, claims to be a victim of “cyber bullying” needs to grow up and get over themselves.
It’s different when you’re a kid. When people cyber bully you on Facebook, those are done by people you know. You have to interact with these people at school in a very real way.
Here, if people are “Bullying” you, all you have to do is not click on the thread.
Gee, I sure bet teenagers who really ARE victims of cyber bullying would love to have the “No click” option to avoid their very real and very painful bullying.
It was DrDeth who stated that there was cyber-bullying outside of the pit. I think DrDeth can speak for themselves on this matter.
I believe you have. You don’t get to create definitions for words that have meanings already.
And besides, Broomstick stated the (unbelievable) “facts” that are in dispute in the first place. When asked about them she doubled down. If they were josh-y parables she had time to get out from under them. Let me ask you a question, if I tell someone in all sincerity that I have been to the moon and someone tells me I’m full of shit, would you consider that bullying? The thing you are missing out on is that her stories are just not believable.
Another question, do you yourself believe Broomsticks femur breaking story?
You know, upon reflection… I was thinking it over and I kind of came to the conclusion that implicit in the term bullying is teenagers/kids. I think you put my thoughts into more concrete terms. I guess an adult or group of adults could bully someone at the workplace… but that is not the case here, and, as you say, you can either put people on ignore or simply avoid the PITT or avoid certain threads on the PITT.
She probably does deserve it!!! But me asking for a bit ore civility is not inventing my own terms. Haggling over definitions is a poor indicator of the sate of affairs in any conversation.
My desire to broaden the civil dialogue does not mean I don’t understand the terms we are using.
Oh, sorry… I am not familiar with the details but from what I have read on this thread I would have to say I do not find her stories to be credible. I have very little doubt that she is either exaggerating greatly or outright lying for attention.
You are not trying to “broaden the civil dialogue” (whatever that means); you are attempting to impose your own narrow definition of a broadly understood term (cyber bullying) on the rest of us. Hint: it ain’t working.
No, actually, my position is that some of the insults on the BBQPITT get taken too far and that it would be nice if people were more civil. I feel there really is nothing left for me to say on this topic, because, as you say, my appeal for people to be more civil ain’t working.
Because she has totally read the thread? As well as the “other board” which she seems to magically know there is a discussion about her, but she hasn’t read it either.
Because the Pit is not meant to be a place to be “civil”, or “nice”. It’s a place to argue, bitch and yes, flame others. If you have a problem with that, perhaps you need to stay out of there. (BTW, it used to be a LOT worse than it is now)
You ever heard the phrase, “there’s no such thing as a right NOT to be offended?” Well, that would be the case here.
I can’t help but be reminded of an article I read the other day (can’t find the link) about how a college was holding a forum on rape. Some felt “under attack” by the thought of having to hear opinions on rape that differed from their own and so set up a “safe space” with beanbag chairs and, literally, fluffy puppies.
Perhaps we could set up a hug-intensive anti-BBQ Pit for those who find “being disagreed with” so mentally harmful. Oh, wait…that’s MPSIMS.
My post was a response to the DrDeth post directly above mine. HE said “I have not heard that opinion- I have heard that either she deserves it "for being a liar’ or that their behavior is not cyber-bullying.” [emphasis added].
IF a group of posters have taken it upon themselves to punish another poster for what they believe is lying then yes, they HAVE appointed them judge and jury and executioner of sentence. I have NOT named any particular posters as actually doing this.
In fact, that would be a form of moderating, which no one outside of moderators is supposed to be doing on this forum - but as well all know the moderators here can be slow to act and don’t always make the decisions people would like them to.
And I’ve stated more than once I’m quite happy they’re all camping out in one thread instead of threadshitting all over the Dope.
I never said I was - DrDeth brought up that possibility, not me. Again, please try to keep straight who is saying what.
Not true. Plenty of threads in the Pit are about people who have never posted at the SDMB. In fact, the majority of them fall into that category.
I have, however, at times been asked to post “proof” that would have in fact revealed my name, date of birth, where I live, and other personal information, as have other people. Something that is actually against the rules here. I wish people would get called on that more, because that can lead to actual real world consequences if it occurs.
Let me get this straight - YOU, who are constantly demanding CITE! from other people, can’t be bothered to look up a post? Really?
OK, back at ya - CITE! C’mon - link to the exact post where I said exactly that. Otherwise, it’s just another example of people distorting what I have actually said.
AND I HAVE SAID, more than once, that I do err on the side of doubt and politely correct any mistaken impressions that do occur. Unless you have a CITE! where I have done otherwise?
FTR, I don’t believe that statement.
This may shock you, but I do have friends who have told me about those other discussions, in one or two cases sending me links. What, you think I’m sitting here in some sort of isolation? I have PM’s and e-mail, too, you know.
Really, I’m not as vain as you think I am.
Also, I have this dreadful compulsion to post in threads I read… if I’m not posting, it’s a pretty safe bet I’m not reading. How did you think I got to 20,000+ posts here, after all?
I mainly found out about the “other board” when I did a Google search to attempt to find out what happened to the poster known as I Have Hippos In My Garden, whereupon I found some of the self-righteous congratulating themselves on having outed umkay, how good it felt, and maybe they could continue the crusade to expose other posters as frauds. I’d post a link, but I’m really not sure how the mods would take that, or if it would be constructive. I have, however, given anyone enough information to do such a search themselves if they care to do so.
I’m not sure what you’re complaining about. What you’ve written here is essentially just what people have written in the pit thread. (It is pit by the way, not Pitt. It has nothing to do with William, or Brad, or the 'burgh.)
If there are worse insults in the pit thread than what you wrote here, they are atypical and are far and away the exception rather than the rule. Hypocrite.
Okay, after a modestly quick skim, I found no insults in that thread greater that “liar/lying”, and no discussion of any other aspects of her character. Nobody has written that they do not like her, and nobody has insulted her (again, outside of the issue of her dishonesty).
If there is any example to the contrary, please provide it.
So, the cyberbulling, meanness, and “executioner” stuff seems to me reflective of a dramatic overreaction.