# Why does "this" bug you? Poll-ish

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 7, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996 "2010-01-07T04:02:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/61 "2010-01-08T22:23:40Z")

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I love scarf loops on men, but there’s no way it’s new and trendy! Men and women were doing it when I was at university five years ago. I’ve heard people say that styles take a year or two to move from Europe/UK to North America, but I’d never believed them – have Americans seriously not seen that style until this year?

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**Author:** ![Neverender](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Neverender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverender)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/62 "2010-01-08T23:10:21Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Okay, I’ll bite. I hold my fork in my left and my knife in my right (not like a pen though!)because I’m right handed and have better dexterity in my right hand but if I was left handed I would do the opposite. What the heck would be wrong with that?
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> And why / how / when do you listen to other peoples’ Ipods? Not being snarky; I only ever use mine at the gym and I guess I think of their use as a solitary activity.

What’s wrong with it? Nothing really, that’s why it’s one of those little irrational irritations.  
The Ipod thing happened a lot at school where we’d lend each other our mp3 players while 1 person had a lesson whilst the other simultaneously had a free. It also tends to happen when it’s your turn to choose the music at a party where the ipods in a dock or hooked up to speakers.

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**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/63 "2010-01-09T00:26:54Z")

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> [@SecondJudith](#):
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> I love scarf loops on men, but there’s no way it’s new and trendy! Men and women were doing it when I was at university five years ago. I’ve heard people say that styles take a year or two to move from Europe/UK to North America, but I’d never believed them – have Americans seriously not seen that style until this year?

I mentioned in my post I’ve been doing it at least 3 years after I saw my cousin doing it when we lived together in college. US here. This past year or so though it’s become fashionable to wear scarves in a decorative fashion again (and it stays on after the coat goes, or worn even when coat not required at all) and the loop is how it’s often worn.

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**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/64 "2010-01-09T00:50:38Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I dunno…I always thought this was _hot_.

Pervert!

😉

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**Author:** ![Recliner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a88e57/32.png) [@Recliner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recliner)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/65 "2010-01-09T01:41:55Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> Okay, I’ll start. This is not the least bit reasonable and I have no idea why I find it mildly annoying, but the new trendy way of wearing scarves bugs me a bit.
> 
> [The slimming scarf - YLF](http://youlookfab.com/2007/12/20/the-slimming-scarf/) (the girl on the far right in the blue scarf)
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> The way it’s worn is, the scarf is folded in half and then the ends go through the loop created by the fold.
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> So what’s your “I have no idea why this bugs me, but it does”?

I find scarves in general mildly annoying. They strike me as affectations. Yes, I know I can’t back this up 😃

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**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/66 "2010-01-09T01:45:57Z")

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Leggings are not pants. And skinny jeans are always the wrong answer. ALWAYS.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/67 "2010-01-09T05:03:01Z")

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> [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](#):
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> Leggings are not pants. And skinny jeans are always the wrong answer. ALWAYS.

Seconded. Especially if you’re over 25.

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**Author:** ![Pyper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pyper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyper)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/68 "2010-01-09T05:57:10Z")

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I hate people (only women apparently) who wear their scarves indoors. It is a SCARF, okay, not a fashion accessory! It is an OUTDOOR garment. There is no way you need to be wearing a low-cut sweater that bares most of the skin on your upper chest, and then a SCARF.

As a side note, I find it amusing how many people are annoyed by skinny jeans. Just recently, these types of threads were filled with the rage of a thousand suns directed toward hip-hugger jeans on women and baggy pants on men. Now that that those fashions are slowly being replaced, people feel the need to rail against skinny jeans. I think no leg covering on the young will ever be approved by the older generation.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/69 "2010-01-09T06:27:18Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
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> The backing into parking spaces thing bothers me also. Especially at the commuter lot where I park for the train. I guess it wouldn’t be too bad if these folks could whip into a parking space backwards as quickly as I can frontwards, but inevitably I’ve got to sit and wait for them to: pull past the space; start to back up; pull forward to reangle; back up again (slowly); whoops! reangle again; and then finally park. Whereas I can pull into a space in 2 seconds, thus freeing up the lane. Plus, IMO, it’s easier to back out into a relatively open space (front-in parking) than a narrow space (back-in parking).

I’ve rarely seen this with people backing in. It happens far, far, FAR more often with people pulling in.  
See, when you back in, by having the pivot point be at what is now the “back” (compared to the parking space,) you have the capability to be fully aligned with the parking space and only have about 25% of the parking space “used up”. You now can easily back in and be fully in your spot.

But when you pull into a space, by pivoting in the front, it takes about 75% (at best) of the space before you’re straight and lined up. Hell, it seems half the time people don’t even bother. They’re content to have the left front end of their car be almost in the space to the left of them, and the rear right corner to almost be in the spot to the right. This is easily avoided by backing in.

Plus…whether someone backs in or backs out, you still have to wait for them. I’d rather wait for them backing in, when I can easily see them doing it and they can easily see me, than have them back out where they creep a little, try to peek past the large SUV next to them, creep out a little more, and then almost hit me.

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**Author:** ![kapri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kapri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kapri)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/70 "2010-01-09T14:55:04Z")

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Wow, people are annoyed when people wear scarves, and even **hate** them? I love wearing scarves! I just do. I love fabric, textiles, print, design, and so I love scarves. Are they really that offensive? Sheesh.

So here’s mine: baseball caps. Just lose them, please. I hate them on both men and women. Exceptions: fishing, mowing the lawn, playing golf. But if you’re going out to lunch or to a movie or to a business meeting, or to class, please, please lose the stupid baseball cap.

Also: flip-flops with long pants on men. It’s bad enough I have to see your ugly feet when you’re wearing shorts, but shorts and flip-flops make sense. But with long pants, when you’re taking me out to dinner. Uggg–ly. But I don’t like feet in general and would prefer it if everyone wore closed shoes all the time. Too bad I live in Florida.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/71 "2010-01-09T15:42:40Z")

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> [@Satchmo](#):
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> It bugs me seeing ladies with ponytails and baseball type caps and they put the ponytail through the opening in the back. I guess it’s related to the death of baseball caps that came in sizes. I miss the old caps, I guess. Other than that, it’s pretty irrational, but it bugs me.

Well, my hair isn’t long enough to put my ponytail at the base of my neck, so it pretty much has to go where the back of the hat is. Also, putting the ponytail through the hole helps secure both the hat and my hair. It’s win-win. And it’s not comfortable to cram the ponytail down and out under the bottom of the hat (and that would also look really stupid to boot).

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/72 "2010-01-09T17:13:43Z")

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> [@Pyper](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> As a side note, I find it amusing how many people are annoyed by skinny jeans. Just recently, these types of threads were filled with the rage of a thousand suns directed toward hip-hugger jeans on women and baggy pants on men. Now that that those fashions are slowly being replaced, people feel the need to rail against skinny jeans. I think no leg covering on the young will ever be approved by the older generation.

Don’t worry, I have lots of room in my disapprover for ALL the things young people are wearing - I didn’t stop hating hip-hugging muffintop bumroll jeans just because girls started wearing painted on skinny jeans now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/73 "2010-01-10T04:28:45Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I’m going to go with people (well, ok, women) who tie their sweatshirts/jackets around their waist.  
> (note: before I corrected myself, I had typed ‘waste’ instead of ‘waist’. :D)

\<\<tiny little voice…Oh, that would be me. It’s because, as my former boyfriend used to say my “thermostat is broken”. I’m constantly hot/cold, hot/okay, cold/hot…FREEZING/hot…etc.

That way I can have it with me at all times and have my hands free. Trust me, I’m a fat old grandma, I’m under no illusions that it "slims’ me. 😃

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/74 "2010-01-10T04:38:24Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> My husband and I have a point of contention - pulling through parking spaces. He simply won’t pull through a parking space - if there is no car in front of him, no barriers or anything, he’ll still back out of the space. It came to a head this fall while on vacation; after parking at a Wal\*Mart or something, he could have pulled forward and started driving, but instead he was waiting for car after car after car behind him to reverse out of the space. I pretty much lost my temper and demanded he just pull forward and go, already! He’s probably technically right, that you’re supposed to back out, but my logic is that since you’ll be found at fault if you have an accident while backing out, and all the large vehicles in parking lots make it impossible to see, I like the advantage of being able to look forward while leaving a parking spot and have a fighting chance of not getting hit.
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> ETA: Forgot my point - his refusal to pull through parking spaces bugs me.

In my company’s driving safety course (mandatory), backing into, or pulling through a space is advised as the safest alternative. It’s always safer to be able to pull out into potential traffic as opposed to backing out into it. And I know it takes a little longer to wait for someone to back in, but think of it this way, if you’re waiting for a parking space, the person who’s backed in can drive out and be out of your way so that you can have the spot WAY faster than the person who’s pulled in. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/75 "2010-01-10T05:08:21Z")

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> [@SecondJudith](#):
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> I love scarf loops on men, but there’s no way it’s new and trendy! Men and women were doing it when I was at university five years ago. I’ve heard people say that styles take a year or two to move from Europe/UK to North America, but I’d never believed them – have Americans seriously not seen that style until this year?

Well, please note my location 😃 It’s entirely possible they have been, and it just didn’t get here until this year. OR, that I just haven’t noticed it until now for some reason.

I notice a lot of people saying that it keeps them warmer, but the way I’ve seen them worn is hanging lower on the person’s neck, so most of the neck is still bare. Plus I’ve noticed it more with those thin fashion scarves than I have with a “muffler”.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/76 "2010-01-10T06:52:10Z")

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> [@Pyper](#):
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> As a side note, I find it amusing how many people are annoyed by skinny jeans. Just recently, these types of threads were filled with the rage of a thousand suns directed toward hip-hugger jeans on women and baggy pants on men. Now that that those fashions are slowly being replaced, people feel the need to rail against skinny jeans. I think no leg covering on the young will ever be approved by the older generation.

There’s a nice happy medium between skinny jeans and baggy jeans. Regular or relaxed fit jeans have been just fine for like sixty years. Don’t mess with the classics. (Yes, I know what is now considered a classic or relaxed fit is a bit more loose than jeans even twenty years ago, but I think they are at the perfect point now.)

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/77 "2010-01-11T09:02:05Z")

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I was just thinking about this- it isn’t fashion, but it’s something that bugs me that really doesn’t hurt me in any way.

People who think they’re great at something who really aren’t. Like the girl who can’t spell “definitely” or tell the difference between “lose” and “loose” and offers to proofread people’s papers for school. Or my friend who was a photography major for a semester who takes completely average photos and knows nothing about art but frequently makes comments about how she’s great at XYZ (telling differences between artists’ styles, evaluating art, deciding whether something has “emotion” or not, onandonandon) because she was an art student. Only she’s frequently very obviously wrong.

On one hand, dream your dreams and like what you like and if you’re happy taking average photos and thinking you’re pretty great, then great. But on the other hand, shut up.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/78 "2010-01-11T14:19:11Z")

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When groups of people come in to a popular movie 5 minutes before it starts and seem shocked that they can’t find 4 seats together. Dudes, if you want your pick of seats, you need to be in the theatre 45 minutes before the movie starts.

It just irks me. I guess in a ‘I’ve been sitting here for 45 minutes to get my awesome seats, but you feel entitled to awesome seats for showing up right before the show’.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/79 "2010-01-11T21:07:53Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> As someone who does this 90% of the time the opportunity presents itself, I’m really curious about why this bothers you.

re: backing into a parking space.  
I think the reason it bugs me, is that when I used to umpire alot more than I do now, several umpires would do this… and it wasn’t the well liked umpires, it was the umpires that were ‘tools’. Therefore I associate it with people who are probably losers. I know it’s not the case, but when I see it, it always causes this reaction: :rolleyes:

The thing that bugs me is service people using the word “we” when they mean “you.”

Waiter: How are we doing this evening?  
Me: I don’t know. How are WE doing? Can WE share this bill?

I know the guy is just being friendly, but it drives us nuts. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-this-bug-you-poll-ish/523996/80 "2010-01-11T21:19:37Z")

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> [@Neverender](#):
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> Nope, I was wearing a scarf like that when I was in the lower 6th/year 12 at school circa 2005. By 2007 [‘afghan’](http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/standa/cabinet/handcarry/afgskf-blu_1.jpg) scarfs would have been a bigger thing (though more in autumn). And speaking of London I got my first afghan scarf in Covent Garden.

[Christopher Titus]…and ironically, the afghan scarf is one of the friendliest scarves around.[/Christopher Titus]

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