# Why doesn't Indiana observe Daylight Savings Time? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 5, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436 "2004-04-05T21:03:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kurt\_M.Weber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kurt\_M.Weber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurt_M.Weber)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/41 "2004-04-07T19:58:24Z")
Although I-69 may change that a bit… ---
**Author:** ![caray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@caray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caray)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/42 "2004-04-07T20:01:23Z")
> [@](#): > > If the Commies took over one night and demanded that we all get up one hour earlier and go into work one hour earlier, there would be riots in the streets! > Daylight Saving Time. Obsolete, costly, annoying. Just say no. I disagree… I think “taste of chocolate” had it right, > [@](#): > > As someone who lives in the northern part of the contiguous USA, I love DST. > > Without it, sunrise in summer would be around 4:30am, and sunset around 8pm. > Having sunrise at 5:30am and sunset at 9pm makes much for sense for those of us who work non-farm related jobs. It let’s us make the most use of daylight hrs, and still work standard business hours (usually 8am-5pm in this area) I have to say that having it get light later in the morning and stay light later in the evening is much much more pleasant. Otherwise the birds start waking you up around 3:30 in the morning… And I have to disagree about it taking 30 days to get used to daylight saving time. Since it happens over a weekend when I don’t have to be up for work, etc., it usually takes me about 1-2 days to adjust. And it’s only 1 hour here, folks. Not much different than going to bed early and getting up early a couple days in a row. HOWEVER, I do like the idea Critical1 had, > [@](#): > > wouldnt we see virtually the exact same benifits if all clocks were moved 30minutes in the appropriate direction and just LEFT ALONE? Now, wouldn’t that solve all the problems?? Except for being 1/2 hour off from every other country in the world…except, what is it, one area of New Zealand, that’s always x hours and 30 minutes different than everywhere else? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/43 "2004-04-07T22:33:57Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > once a year for an entire week the accident rate shoots through the roof as the entire work force shows up running on an hour less sleep. > there is no extra hour of daylight, what the hell is this? Could we have a reputable citation for this? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/44 "2004-04-07T22:50:33Z")
> [@caray](#): > > Except for being 1/2 hour off from every other country in the world…except, what is it, one area of New Zealand, that’s always x hours and 30 minutes different than everywhere else? And the Northern Territory, Australia; South Australia, Australia; Norfolk Island, Australia; Lord Howe Island, Australia; Afghanistan; India; French Polynesia-Marquesas Islands; Burma; Newfoundland, Canada; and Iran. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/45 "2004-04-08T02:14:32Z")
Just a note on the other states with divided time zone issues: In Kansas, those counties in the western part of the state are sliced off into Mountain time because they are economically more dependent on Denver/Colorado Springs than on Eastern Kansas. Oregon counties in Mountain time are linked economically to Boise, Idaho. By contrast, the panhandle of Idaho is economically linked to Spokane and the Columbia River basin, so that part is chopped off and put in Pacific. El Paso, Texas is naturally lumped with New Mexico, rather than the rest of Texas. More difficult to establish the rationale for are states chopped in half. In the case of the northern plains states, the line appears to be an arbitrary determination as to where it makes more sense to reckon time based on 105 degrees west longitude than on 90 degrees west longitude. Kentucky and Tennessee appear to slice off their Appalachian portions for Eastern time, leaving the flatter river plains to Central. The western Florida panhandle is put with Alabama presumably on the basis that they are tied together. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/46 "2004-04-08T20:42:49Z")
daylight savings and accident rates [http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s689016.htm](http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s689016.htm) [http://www.mcmaster.ca/inabis98/occupational/coren0164/two.html](http://www.mcmaster.ca/inabis98/occupational/coren0164/two.html) [http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/339/16/1167](http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/339/16/1167) [http://www.selfhelpmagazine.com/articles/holidays/daysave.html](http://www.selfhelpmagazine.com/articles/holidays/daysave.html) I couldnt find the info on adjusting to a new sleep pattern, the best I could find was all on jet lag and usually said a week or less. either way, the accident rate is real and basicly equates to people getting injured and even dying over something thats just weird to even contemplate. I have a hard time justifying the benifits of daylight savings vrs the hassle it creates. my 30 min solution gives most of the benifits with none of the problems at all. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/47 "2004-04-08T21:08:10Z")
The third citation you provided, from the New England Journal of Medicine, disputes the claim of the Coren study, in the first citation, that accidents rates increased with Daylight Saving (not Savings) Time. ---
**Author:** ![BoringDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BoringDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoringDad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436/48 "2004-04-09T03:01:58Z")
> [@caray](#): > > I have to say that having it get light later in the morning and stay light later in the evening is much much more pleasant. Otherwise the birds start waking you up around 3:30 in the morning… I got news for you… the birds are waking you up at the same time whether you change your clocks or not. If you are on a quest for extra hours of daylight, you have my permission to get up one hour earlier and enjoy the sunshine before work. You can work regular work hours and still enjoy the same amount of daylight. I can keep my same sleep patterns. It would all be nice and voluntary, not mandated like the totalitarian decree it is now. The “energy savings” from daylight saving are all based on obsolete data. I defy you to show me that with modern energy use patterns there is any saving. And from my personal experience, I can tell you that work time is lost. I have never been at a job that didn’t have at least one person show up an unusual amount of time late one or two days in the first week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-indiana-observe-daylight-savings-time/238436.md?page=2)