# Why doesn't this sport exist? ( (team) handball + (association) football )

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 3, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211 "2009-11-03T21:58:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/21 "2009-11-05T17:10:54Z")

</div>

Well, if we are going to do THAT, let’s play CALVINBALL!!! 😃

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![FrWindyShephardHenderson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FrWindyShephardHenderson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrWindyShephardHenderson)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/22 "2009-11-05T17:23:18Z")

</div>

Irishman here. Yeah this is pretty much Gaelic football. You can run with the ball but you must solo (kick the ball to yourself) after a certain number of steps (seven I think, but this is largely up to how good the referee’s eyesight is). You can also bounce it but you cant do two bounces in a row, you must alternate with solos.

Also there are some other restrictions, like you can’t throw the ball to another player, you must punch it out of one hand with the other. Also you can’t just pick up the ball either, you must kind of flick it up with your foot. Weird but thats the GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) for you.

> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
>
> I think the main issue with the idea of a sport you can do what you propose is how do you stop someone from making a score? What the football sports all eventually have to do is come up with some artificial or arbitrary means of determining how a team/player has to give up the ball. In soccer, the decision was to take the ball out of players’ hands, so that taking the ball away (tackling) becomes easy to do. In Rugby and American football, the originators wanted to be able to carry the ball, so they created artificial rules about having to reset the play, or give up the ball, when you are physically brought down to the ground (tackled).

This point is actually an oft argued point about Gaelic Football. There really is no way of legally getting the ball of someone unless you intercept a pass or knock the ball away when they are doing a solo or a bounce. This means that games just frequently descend into a series of free kicks as players foul trying to stop their opponent.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/23 "2009-11-06T03:32:10Z")

</div>

> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
>
> Well, if we are going to do THAT, let’s play CALVINBALL!!! 😃

There was one strip where Rosalyn played Calvinball. One of the better strips\*, IMHO.

\*And no, I’m not dissing the average C&H Strip, No argument here that C&H is one of the better comic properties.

Ok, if we can’t play handball and soccer at the same time, can we at least have soccer where all the players, except for goalies wear straightjackets? :eek: I kinda think that could work.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/24 "2009-11-06T03:53:03Z")

</div>

> [@Meeko](#):
>
> [Speedball - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedball_%28sport%29)
> 
> This article deals with one of the various sports known as speedball, in this case a game based on Association football (soccer) and European team handball. For details of other games known as speedball, see: Speedball (disambiguation).
> 
> It exists. I Was trying to find the version I Remember playing, and this is best I could come up with.
> 
> Also, the Playstation Video game Speedball 2000 is a different beast altogether, but it is still a good game, with a similar name.  
> Now, a game that has a Soccer ball, AND a Hand ball **AT THE SAME TIME** I would pay to see that. Then again, I have ADD so …

I was going to post about speedball, since we played it in gym class in junior high. It was pretty much a game invented for gym class.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/25 "2009-11-06T04:26:05Z")

</div>

> [@Tamex](#):
>
> I was going to post about speedball, since we played it in gym class in junior high. It was pretty much a game invented for gym class.

As was basketball, originally. 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/26 "2009-11-09T05:55:47Z")

</div>

> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
>
> What you describe, **Arnold** , is very similar to Aussie Rules Football. … What you can’t do is pass forward.

That last bit is not correct. In Aussie Rules you can pass forward. It’s the two rugby codes where that is forbidden. An Aussie Rules pass differs from a rugby (or American Football) pass in that you have to hold the ball in one hand and punch it out with the other.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TastesLikeBurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@TastesLikeBurning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TastesLikeBurning)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211/27 "2009-11-09T07:41:53Z")

</div>

> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#):
>
> That last bit is not correct. In Aussie Rules you can pass forward. It’s the two rugby codes where that is forbidden. An Aussie Rules pass differs from a rugby (or American Football) pass in that you have to hold the ball in one hand and punch it out with the other.

Yes this is correct and is known as a handball, but it is also permitted to pass the ball by kicking it.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-this-sport-exist-team-handball-association-football/516211.md?page=1)
