# Why doesn't Trump's childishness simply disqualify him outright in your mind? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 2, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184 "2017-01-02T23:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/181 "2017-01-03T22:48:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > “Childish”? What does childish mean? That he doesn’t act like you do? That he doesn’t think like you do? That he doesn’t follow a form of Groupthink? Trump is just as qualified as Hillary, or Obama. Look it up in the U.S. Constitution. Perhaps you’re thinking “[eligible](http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/82/presidential-eligibility)”? “Qualified”, is an entirely different discussion. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/182 "2017-01-03T22:51:22Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > **“Childish”? What does childish mean?** That he doesn’t act like you do? That he doesn’t think like you do? That he doesn’t follow a form of Groupthink? Trump is just as qualified as Hillary, or Obama. Look it up in the U.S. Constitution. > > Trump-as-president doesn’t exist yet. > > Hating seems to be the national pastime. Hating President-elect Trump has become a fulltime hobby of the Democrat collective. I’ll wait for Trump’s cabinet to be seated, AND I’ll wait to see how well Trump works with Congress, and vice versa. [Childish](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/childish) > [@](#): > > Definition of childish > > ``` > 1 > : of, relating to, or befitting a child or childhood > > **2 > a : marked by or suggestive of immaturity and lack of poise** <a childish spiteful remark> b : lacking complexity : simple <it's a childish device, but it works> c : deteriorated with age especially in mind : senile > > ``` As for qualified, there are two general meanings. Yes, he is qualified under the Constitution. No, he is not qualified due to lack of knowledge, temperament and ethics. In other words, it’s not whether he can get the job, the question is can he do the job? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/183 "2017-01-03T23:16:56Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > What I can’t quite understand, and you can’t quite explain, is why his supporters eat up the stupid like it’s manna from heaven. I am not going to answer that since it’s a loaded question. Maybe if you rephrased it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/184 "2017-01-03T23:33:45Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I am not going to answer that since it’s a loaded question. > > Maybe if you rephrased it? It’s a perfectly clear question. You won’t answer it because you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/185 "2017-01-03T23:34:13Z")
Just to make clear about Trump and childishness (setting aside the question of how such childishness would be cause for disqualification) - I’m sure that disabled reporter might have a thought or two about DT’s childishness. From the _New Yorker_ article: > [@](#): > > Trump has routinely said things that would, in previous elections, have been considered scandalous and disqualifying. His outlandish and often incompatible claims, along with his refusal to admit mistakes, make it impossible to determine which of his notions are likely to become policies, and can foster the sinister impression that, as President, Trump will be accountable to no one, not even himself. Yes, in full disclosure I will admit my confirmation bias in cherry-picking that above quote in an article that otherwise focuses on a bunch of right-wing pundits (_mysterioso_ Decius in particluar) trying to turd-polish “Trumpism”. > [@](#): > > Decius says that he learned to accept what he calls Trump’s “unconventionality as a candidate,” and maintains that his support never wavered, even when Trump said things that he found indefensible. (The worst, Decius says, was Trump’s suggestion that Gonzalo Curiel, a federal judge presiding over a fraud case against him, had “an absolute conflict of interest,” because he was of Mexican descent. “I thought that was exactly the wrong thing to do,” Decius said.) While “Decius” at least acknowledged the Curiel issue, to dismiss Trump’s reprehensible actions as “unconventionality as a candidate” is disingenuous at best. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/186 "2017-01-03T23:45:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s a perfectly clear question. You won’t answer it because you can’t. Of course it’s loaded. It’s asking someone to answer something they don’t believe is true. Why do you persist in saying that the moon is made of green cheese, **running coach**? I demand an answer. It’s a perfectly clear question. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/187 "2017-01-03T23:48:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Childish](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/childish) > As for qualified, there are two general meanings. Yes, he is qualified under the Constitution. > No, he is not qualified due to lack of knowledge, temperament and ethics. > > In other words, it’s not whether he can get the job, the question is can he do the job? Of course Trump can get the job. All he had to do was beat Hillary’s personality, and Obama’s policies. The fact that the OP believes Trump is childish is probably the reason why so many people voted not to keep Obama’s policies, or be subjected to her royal Hillary. If Hillary didn’t feel bad enough about getting her political ass kicked - again - the Hillary worshippers are now suggesting that Hillary was beaten by a child. If the Hillary worshippers actually question if Trump can do the job, I would think that they would wait until he actually had the job, because they don’t seem to know very much about him. Except what they’ve been telling themselves. But we, you and I, know that this isn’t about whether Trump can do the job. It’s therapy for the broken hearted, and embarrassed, Hillary voters. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/188 "2017-01-03T23:54:05Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The fact that the OP believes Trump is childish is probably the reason why so many people voted not to […] :dubious: Gee, I didn’t realize that “so many people” were aware of the OP’s personal opinion about Trump’s maturity level, or considered it important enough to influence their votes. Or maybe you were trying to say something else. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/189 "2017-01-03T23:57:02Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Of course it’s loaded. It’s asking someone to answer something they don’t believe is true. Why do you persist in saying that the moon is made of green cheese, **running coach**? I demand an answer. It’s a perfectly clear question. I never said the moon is made of green cheese. It’s very evident by the samples the Apollo astronauts brought back, that the Moon is made of various forms of dirt and rock. See? That was easy. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/190 "2017-01-04T00:10:28Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I am not going to answer that since it’s a loaded question. > > Maybe if you rephrased it? Fair enough. Do you believe that Trump’s solution to the digital security challenge being faced today by the US is adequately and seriously addressed by suggesting, as he did, that sensitive information can be written down on paper and sent by courier? Please explain your answer. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/191 "2017-01-04T00:14:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s a perfectly clear question. You won’t answer it because you can’t. “Have you stopped beating your wife?” is a perfectly clear question as well. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/192 "2017-01-04T00:17:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Of course Trump can get the job. All he had to do was beat Hillary’s personality, and Obama’s policies. > > The fact that the OP believes Trump is childish is probably the reason why so many people voted not to keep Obama’s policies, or be subjected to her royal Hillary. > > If Hillary didn’t feel bad enough about getting her political ass kicked - again - the Hillary worshippers are now suggesting that Hillary was beaten by a child. > > If the Hillary worshippers actually question if Trump can do the job, I would think that they would wait until he actually had the job, because they don’t seem to know very much about him. Except what they’ve been telling themselves. But we, you and I, know that this isn’t about whether Trump can do the job. It’s therapy for the broken hearted, and embarrassed, Hillary voters. Nobody, including the OP has brought up Hillary. Trump supporters are the only ones who continue to reminde everyone else that Hillary lost(!). Seems to me, her loss is much more satisfying to you than Trump’s win. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/193 "2017-01-04T00:18:37Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Fair enough. > > Do you believe that Trump’s solution to the digital security challenge being faced today by the US is adequately and seriously addressed by suggesting, as he did, that sensitive information can be written down on paper and sent by courier? No. It is not to be taken literally. He is saying that anything transmitted electronically should be considered insecure (I should add, unless extraordinary measures are taken, which very few people take). You are pretending to take his statement literally because of your bias/agenda. It is pretty clear to anyone without such that it was not to be taken literally. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/194 "2017-01-04T00:19:47Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :dubious: Gee, I didn’t realize that “so many people” were aware of the OP’s personal opinion about Trump’s maturity level, or considered it important enough to influence their votes. > > Or maybe you were trying to say something else. The OP seems to be looking for one more excuse to explain Hillary’s 2nd failure to become POTUS. If he feels better believing that Hillary was beaten by a childish man, or a child, or the better candidate, I feel his pain. I empathize with his embarrassment. However, regardless of how he feels about the Trump candidacy, the Hillary candidacy finished in 2nd place. Behind Trump. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/195 "2017-01-04T00:23:52Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Nobody, including the OP has brought up Hillary. Trump supporters are the only ones who continue to reminde everyone else that Hillary lost(!). Seems to me, her loss is much more satisfying to you than Trump’s win. But was Hillary beaten by Trump’s alleged childishness? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/196 "2017-01-04T00:24:34Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No. It is not to be taken literally. He is saying that anything transmitted electronically should be considered insecure (I should add, unless extraordinary measures are taken, which very few people take). > > You are pretending to take his statement literally because of your bias/agenda. It is pretty clear to anyone without such that it was not to be taken literally. He actually said it should be written down and sent by courier. [The Hill](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312334-trumps-solution-to-cyberattacks-write-it-down-and-send-it-by) > [@](#): > > “It’s very important, if you have something really important, write it out and have it delivered by courier, the old fashioned way because I’ll tell you what, no computer is safe,” Trump responded when asked about the importance of cybersecurity, according to pool reporters. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/197 "2017-01-04T00:31:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He actually said it should be written down and sent by courier. > [The Hill](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312334-trumps-solution-to-cyberattacks-write-it-down-and-send-it-by) And? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/198 "2017-01-04T00:36:19Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > And? And it’s a fucking stupid idea. There’s no way to have enough drivers to transport the number of messages that the federal gov’t sends. And that’s just local. What do you propose for a message going to San Francisco? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/199 "2017-01-04T00:40:24Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > No. It is not to be taken literally. He is saying that anything transmitted electronically should be considered insecure (I should add, unless extraordinary measures are taken, which very few people take). > > You are pretending to take his statement literally because of your bias/agenda. It is pretty clear to anyone without such that it was not to be taken literally. Then why didn’t he say that? Why didn’t he say: “We live in a digital age where all businesses, all infrastructure, all private and social media, all government and military systems are subject to electronic espionage by state and independent enemy actors. During my administration I will direct our top cyber-security experts to develop and implement the most advanced state of the art digital security infrastructure to protect all US public and privately held assets.” Why was his answer to technological security challenges a throw back to pen, paper and courier? Why does the next commander in chief need to have a translator to the commander in chief? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/200 "2017-01-04T00:40:39Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And it’s a fucking stupid idea. > > There’s no way to have enough drivers to transport the number of messages that the federal gov’t sends. And that’s just local. What do you propose for a message going to San Francisco? As I said, only if you take him literally. A silly strategy you (plural) have been using for more than a year now. What did that get you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184.md?page=11)