# Why doesn't Trump's childishness simply disqualify him outright in your mind? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 2, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184 "2017-01-02T23:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/141 "2017-01-03T19:41:55Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If his primary motivation is making money for himself, why would he become President as opposed to continuing in real estate and reality shows? The Presidency only pays %400K a year. > > Regards, > Shodan It seemed he stumbled into it by accident. I seriously doubt he ever intended to actually win. But, you seem to think that being president only comes with a salary, and no other perks whatsoever. The president has no power over how monies are spent, what contracts are taken, or what people are influenced, right? Do you really think that he will only profit by $400k a year? Now, if he actually set stuff up in a blind trust, and avoided conflicts of interest as every other president and elected official has done, you may have a point. As he has not, your point has absolutely no relevance. > [@Univarsedivide](#): > > No I have not, but if they go against his wishes he will say Your FIRED. Why do you think they would go against his wishes? His wishes will be to make money, and as long as he is making money, he won’t care what his cabinet does to enrich themselves at our expense. > [@](#): > > The point I am Trying to make is that Him or any cabinet member is automatically in the spotlight, their decisions will be questioned by everyone. When people don’t know who are PULLING THE STRINGS of pollies they can’t be Questioned. His cabinet decisions will be questioned by everyone? Who? Who exactly can question his cabinet actions, and give him reproach over it. Congressional republicans? I think not. They’ll be too busy stuffing their own pockets, and implementing their provably failed supply side ideology, along with their regressive social policies. > [@](#): > > Do you know who gave Hillary 700 billion for her election fund ? If not them you don’t know who is pulling HER strings do you? No, I do not know who gave hillary 700 billion for her election fund. I had actually not heard of that at all before just now. Please, let me know who gave her the better part of a trillion dollars for her campaign. A citation would go a long way towards eliminating my ignorance on this subject. (as well as google’s as a decently comprehensive search did not show that claim anywhere.) > [@](#): > > SIR DUCK will do alright, but the SANDERS MAN would have made me feel even safer.🙂 I just did not want it to be ANOTHER CAREER (RAT)POLLIE. Sanders certainly would be much better than trump, though I still think hillary would have been a better president than sanders. > [@Univarsedivide](#): > > Will that not build the world economies? Yes, of course it will. Just the same way that if you steal from neighbor’s house, burn it down, and overcharge them on the rebuild will improve the economies (sic.) ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/142 "2017-01-03T19:48:44Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, because they care about money for themselves, no one else(except for their cronies), nothing they do will be for the benefit of the nation. > > Example: The nominated Sec. of Labor wants to eliminate workers wherever possible in favor of automation. > So much for Trump’s promise to create millions of jobs. Hey mate DROWN THEM in Letters, Email, Protests and whatever you think might work to stop this. There is more of US than them. That bloke sounds like an idiot to me, get rid of Him. I like TRUMPS idea of getting rid of all the Free Trade Agreements, These have helped MONSTER COMPANIES to pay no tax anywhere. Would you rather have the taxes that APPLE does not pay going into your economy? Trump has so much money that it is meaningless to him, but he craves POPULARITY. The people of America can use this FACT to sway him into making good decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/143 "2017-01-03T19:51:33Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Every successful person, including politicians, has some “huge failures” in his history. It’s the price of success. Yet it’s the overall success that counts. No, the math is different. In business, one big success can outweigh all your past failures. In politics, one big failure can outweigh all your past successes. I’m worried that Trump doesn’t appreciate this important difference and will take risks that would be acceptable in business but are unacceptable in politics. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/144 "2017-01-03T19:52:42Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If his primary motivation is making money for himself, why would he become President as opposed to continuing in real estate and reality shows? The Presidency only pays %400K a year. > > Regards, > Shodan There you go again… playing dumb. Are you doing it for effect or is this some irony I’m missing? ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/145 "2017-01-03T19:55:55Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It seemed he stumbled into it by accident. I seriously doubt he ever intended to actually win. > > But, you seem to think that being president only comes with a salary, and no other perks whatsoever. > > The president has no power over how monies are spent, what contracts are taken, or what people are influenced, right? > > Do you really think that he will only profit by $400k a year? > > Now, if he actually set stuff up in a blind trust, and avoided conflicts of interest as every other president and elected official has done, you may have a point. As he has not, your point has absolutely no relevance. > Why do you think they would go against his wishes? His wishes will be to make money, and as long as he is making money, he won’t care what his cabinet does to enrich themselves at our expense. > > His cabinet decisions will be questioned by everyone? Who? Who exactly can question his cabinet actions, and give him reproach over it. Congressional republicans? I think not. They’ll be too busy stuffing their own pockets, and implementing their provably failed supply side ideology, along with their regressive social policies. > > No, I do not know who gave hillary 700 billion for her election fund. I had actually not heard of that at all before just now. > > Please, let me know who gave her the better part of a trillion dollars for her campaign. A citation would go a long way towards eliminating my ignorance on this subject. (as well as google’s as a decently comprehensive search did not show that claim anywhere.) > Sanders certainly would be much better than trump, though I still think hillary would have been a better president than sanders. > > Yes, of course it will. Just the same way that if you steal from neighbor’s house, burn it down, and overcharge them on the rebuild will improve the economies (sic.) I think that your news services don’t inform you what is going on in your political circles. Hillary and Bill both do PAID speaking engagements for the charity that they set up. If you think this is good, the money goes to Bill and Hillary not the CHARITY. OR ARE THEY THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT WHOLE CHARITY??? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/146 "2017-01-03T19:56:52Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > Who says that ? THE POLLIES, In OZ our Prime Ministers can be that for as long as they are elected, the longest serving PM served (Notice that word, that is why pollies are there for U ) for 26 years, the reason he served for so long was that OZ never had a deficit in that time. Even though after WW2 OZ was feeding England for 20 or more years. He ran OZ like a successful CO-OPERATION. Strange, looks like there’s been a deficit for some time now. [In fact it’s gone from 60 billion in 2008 to just over 400 billion in 2015.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_government_debt) ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/147 "2017-01-03T20:01:31Z")
I don’t who gave Hillary all that money. Your POLLIES have made it a law that they don’t have to tell ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/148 "2017-01-03T20:02:43Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > I think that your news services don’t inform you what is going on in your political circles. Hillary and Bill both do PAID speaking engagements for the charity that they set up. If you think this is good, the money goes to Bill and Hillary not the CHARITY. OR ARE THEY THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT WHOLE CHARITY??? You are right. My news service has not informed me about this 700 billion contribution to hillary’s campaign. I would greatly appreciate it if you would fight my ignorance by citing this news for me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/149 "2017-01-03T20:05:17Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > I don’t who gave Hillary all that money. Your POLLIES have made it a law that they don’t have to tell Could you at least cite that it happened at all. Point out where you heard this news? Because this is news to everyone. It does not show up in any search of any kind. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/150 "2017-01-03T20:06:29Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > I don’t who gave Hillary all that money. Your POLLIES have made it a law that they don’t have to tell Then how do you know it was 700 billion? ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/151 "2017-01-03T20:09:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Strange, looks like there’s been a deficit for some time now. > [In fact it’s gone from 60 billion in 2008 to just over 400 billion in 2015.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_government_debt) Yes, because POLLIES only have the vision to get re-elected and don’t do any long term( The next 25 years or more planning ) any more. Check out our profit/breakeven in the 50’s, 60’s, and remember we were sending millions of dollars of food to England for nothing. The English had to clear all the bombs from the fields before they could be used again. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/152 "2017-01-03T20:18:02Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > Hey mate DROWN THEM in Letters, Email, Protests and whatever you think might work to stop this. There is more of US than them. That bloke sounds like an idiot to me, get rid of Him. I like TRUMPS idea of getting rid of all the Free Trade Agreements, These have helped MONSTER COMPANIES to pay no tax anywhere. Would you rather have the taxes that APPLE does not pay going into your economy? Trump has so much money that it is meaningless to him, but he craves POPULARITY. The people of America can use this FACT to sway him into making good decisions. Trump has shown that he only listens to the part of the electorate that supports him and his decisions. Those that oppose him are the haters and “enemies”. What makes you think he’s going to read the letters and emails that say the person he appointed to head the EPA actually denies climate change? Or the person he is appointing to be the head of Energy thinks the agency needs to be abolished? Aside: It strikes me that you’re posting opinion and commentary on a subject you know very little (if anything) about. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/153 "2017-01-03T20:21:21Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > Yes, because POLLIES only have the vision to get re-elected and don’t do any long term( The next 25 years or more planning ) any more. Check out our profit/breakeven in the 50’s, 60’s, and remember we were sending millions of dollars of food to England for nothing. The English had to clear all the bombs from the fields before they could be used again. Why don’t you drown them in letters, and emails, and protests? There’s more of YOU than there are of them! ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/154 "2017-01-03T20:26:40Z")
Trump has been sniffing around for the white house since 1988. Dan Quayle got his spot: He’s not a polly? He lies to your face on TV: He tells it like it is?? (Is he just lying to the liberals and not you? That’s so special) He’s setting himself and his family to tee up riches and influence that seem to have no ethical boundaries at all: He’s a populist? There is no financial benefit to being president? Talk about blinkered. ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/155 "2017-01-03T20:44:12Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You have no idea what you’re talking about. > > 1. His wishes?!? What about the wishes of the voters? Fuck those losers, eh? > 2. Everybody knows who donates to a political candidate. It’s public record. It’s the law. > 3. Hillary got 700 billion? Where did you get that information? 1. They changed that law, now it is not a matter of public record. Try and find out I dare you 2. OZ news services that use all the news services in the world to get info. I saw a report on Channel 9 news that Hillary HAD SPENT that much and THE DUCK spent about 400 million. I also saw a report that THE DONALD had told told the people giving him money that it buys them no favors. I told a MATE that he would win 6 months ago, I think after it is all said and done he will go down in history as one of the greatest POTUS ever. If I am wrong tell me after his second term ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/156 "2017-01-03T20:52:27Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Why don’t you drown them in letters, and emails, and protests? There’s more of YOU than there are of them! Already started, MADE UP a new political religion, THE HONEST POLLIE, commandment 1 If you can vote for an honest pollie you have to. commandment 2 If you can’t find one you are not allowed to vote. In Australia you have to vote or you get fined, I have not voted in 10 years. I am contacting the pollies who I think are honest and I can vote for. ANY ONE IS WELCOME TO JOIN THIS BELIEF SYSTEM, do you think this would be a good thing ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/157 "2017-01-03T20:52:30Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > 1. **They changed that law, now it is not a matter of public record. Try and find out I dare you** > 2. OZ news services that use all the news services in the world to get info. I saw a report on Channel 9 news that Hillary HAD SPENT that much and THE DUCK spent about 400 million. I also saw a report that THE DONALD had told told the people giving him money that it buys them no favors. I told a MATE that he would win 6 months ago, I think after it is all said and done he will go down in history as one of the greatest POTUS ever. If I am wrong tell me after his second term [Here ya go.](http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00575795&tabIndex=3) Under filings, everyone who gave is listed. [Itemized receipts for February 2016.](http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00575795/1051543/sa/ALL) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/158 "2017-01-03T20:55:48Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > 1. They changed that law, now it is not a matter of public record. Try and find out I dare you What law is it that they changed? I can find out all the donors to hillary’s campain, it is a matter of public record. You don’t have to dare me, it’s easy to find out. Now, if you are talking about pac money, well that doesn’t actually go to the candidtate, it is just spent on their behalf, and that money is harder to track down. Most poeple are against that, so if that is your point, then you will find little disagreement. However, if that is your point, you are making it very poorly. > [@](#): > > 1. OZ news services that use all the news services in the world to get info. I saw a report on Channel 9 news that Hillary HAD SPENT that much and THE DUCK spent about 400 million. I also saw a report that THE DONALD had told told the people giving him money that it buys them no favors. I told a MATE that he would win 6 months ago, I think after it is all said and done he will go down in history as one of the greatest POTUS ever. If I am wrong tell me after his second term Then link to the oz news service that says she spent 700 billion (5% of US’s GDP)on the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Univarsedivide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ab992/32.png) [@Univarsedivide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Univarsedivide)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/159 "2017-01-03T20:56:20Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Trump has shown that he only listens to the part of the electorate that supports him and his decisions. Those that oppose him are the haters and “enemies”. What makes you think he’s going to read the letters and emails that say the person he appointed to head the EPA actually denies climate change? Or the person he is appointing to be the head of Energy thinks the agency needs to be abolished? > > Aside: It strikes me that you’re posting opinion and commentary on a subject you know very little (if anything) about. Mate I grew up in a time that the USA and the USSR had enough NUKES to DESTROY this planet 6 times over. That was my greatest fear. TRUMP IS TO INTERESTED IN HIMSELF TO DO THIS. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184/160 "2017-01-03T21:00:18Z")
> [@Univarsedivide](#): > > Already started, MADE UP a new political religion, THE HONEST POLLIE, > commandment 1 If you can vote for an honest pollie you have to. > commandment 2 If you can’t find one you are not allowed to vote. > In Australia you have to vote or you get fined, I have not voted in 10 years. > I am contacting the pollies who I think are honest and I can vote for. > ANY ONE IS WELCOME TO JOIN THIS BELIEF SYSTEM, do you think this would be a good thing And who determines who is honest, and who is not? You? A group of people? A govt service? A for-profit corporation? What do you consider honest? If someone says 700 billion, when they mean say, 7 million, is that dishonest? What if it is a smaller issue, they say the debt is 15 trillion, but it is actually 14.7 or 15.3, is that dishonest? Tell me, how do you determine the rank and file of honesty of people of whom every statement they have ever made is part of public record? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-trumps-childishness-simply-disqualify-him-outright-in-your-mind/776184.md?page=9)