# Why don't more dopers join the #straightdope irc chat room?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [September 10, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910 "2005-09-10T00:27:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/1 "2005-09-10T00:27:04Z")
It’s a shame. I’d love to have a more real-time natter with some of the regulars of the sdmb.
Get hold of some irc software. go to #straightdope. chat.
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### Author:  [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/2 "2005-09-10T00:42:35Z")
It’s a bit more complicated than that, **Lobsang** , but close enough.
#straightdope moved to the NewNet IRC network a couple of weeks ago (long story), so you’ll need to connect your IRC client to [irc.newnet.net](http://irc.newnet.net) to join the channel.
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### Author:  [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/3 "2005-09-10T01:24:29Z")
OK. I’m an IRC virgin and can’t figure it out. If you can’t give me some direction on the board, my email’s in my profile.
Thankyewkindly!
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### Author:  [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/4 "2005-09-10T01:48:58Z")
I used to be somewhat of a regular in chat when i was a student - hmmm…lab report, or chat? But now that I’m working full time, I’m out of the house 11 hours a day (crazy commute) and I just don’t seem to have time.
Heck, I bought this laptop 2 months ago, and I don’t even think I ever got an IRC client! I didn’t know they moved, either! I should swing by more often!
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### Author:  [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/5 "2005-09-10T01:49:19Z")
I think I’m connecting correctly (using GAIM) but when i join #straightdope I’m the only one in the room - so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
Any linky-linky for a step-by-step, for the IRC impaired?
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### Author:  [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/6 "2005-09-10T03:08:32Z")
I always intend to do it, but somehow I never end up doing it. I prefer IMs but I’m too something to send those most of the time, as well.
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### Author:  [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/7 "2005-09-10T04:19:10Z")
I find chatrooms too confusing. I can, however, have four IM conversations going on at once. Go figure.
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### Author:  [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/8 "2005-09-10T07:26:43Z")
Because it is **soooo** 1999.
😉
Of course, that doesn’t stop me from peeking in every now and then.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/9 "2005-09-10T08:21:51Z")
If it’s not a rhetorical question, I suspect that it may be because a lot of Dopers are constitutionally suited to the correspondence-like format of a message board, where you have the opportunity to digest what the other participants are saying and then take time to organize and compose your responses.
'Tis for me, anyway. I never could stand “chat” – even when it was just something you could do with the SysOp.
It \*was a rhetorical question, wasn’t it? Never mind.
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### Author:  [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/10 "2005-09-10T14:57:28Z")
> [@Earthworm Jim](#):
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> I think I’m connecting correctly (using GAIM) but when i join #straightdope I’m the only one in the room - so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
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> Any linky-linky for a step-by-step, for the IRC impaired?
If you’re the same Earthworm who signed in this morning, I saw you and said hello.
There are a number of ways to connect to us.
The first is to use a Java-based chat applet [here](http://www.undernet.org/webchat.php). Fill in the values requested, then when you get to the status window, type /server [irc.newnet.net](http://irc.newnet.net) then when you get logged on, type /join #straightdope
The second is to download a chat client. [mIRC](http://www.mirc.com) is what most people use. It’s a shareware program that allows you to join any IRC network anywhere. When you download it and install it, find servers for the Newnet network and type /join #straightdope
The main reason we made the jump from Undernet to Newnet was because Undernet was getting flaky, and we lost our channel owner, so Undernet took away our services bot, forcing us to re-apply through their rather Byzantine process. Since we’re a small, special-purpose channel, we couldn’t do that. Newnet, OTOH, allows immediate channel registration with the service bot, and since it’s a much smaller network, doesn’t have the technical problems associated with it. You can also register your nickname, which helps.
There’s also a LiveJournal community for #straightdope. It can be found [here](http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=straightdopeirc). It gives instructions and information.
Robin
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### Author:  [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/11 "2005-09-10T15:54:48Z")
Ditto what **Larry** said. I prefer a MB format or e-mail. Don’t go much for IM, either, but chat is especially annoying for me. I tried the whole chat and IM thing for quite a while back when I first got online and everything about the net was so shiny and exciting. Didn’t like it too much even then. Some of us just are suited for other forms of conversation/interaction.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/12 "2005-09-10T23:57:01Z")
I was hanging out there regularly several months ago, and I just kind of drifted away from the habit. Thanks for letting me know about the move, though!
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### Author:  [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/13 "2005-09-10T23:58:02Z")
I’ll try downloading an IRC client since I can’t seem to get on any other way.
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### Author:  [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/14 "2005-09-10T23:59:06Z")
Everyone should come on and hang out with us cool people 🙂 I love talking to you guys on IRC.
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### Author:  [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/15 "2005-09-11T03:51:32Z")
It’s not on undernet any more? Hmm, this would explain the empty room yesterday.
I don’t go in very often. I tend to write 20-word sentences and expect to have conversations that stay on subject and explore them.
Although that happens a hell of a lot more in #straightdope than any other IRC chat I’ve ever attempted to participate in, it’s still a world of fast 3-word responses and rapid flocking from one momentary topic to another. It’s like being at a party instead of debating a subject in a classroom. I hate most parties. I like to bring my six-pack of beer and talk for 4 hours about comparative strategies for managing diverse personnel, labor politics, top-down versus small-group initiative, and perhaps veer off eventually into telling tales of the worst managers we’ve ever had to work for or with, and also the best. Or whether an angry male condemnation of traditional female flirtational behavior is anti-woman, potentially pro-feminist, affirmatively revolutionary male, or conventionally role-normative male, and how various gender politics theories impinge.
Which at most parties makes me as much fun as a keg of flat, no-alcohol beer with a busted tap.
If you asked the same question in chat, I’d type out these paragraphs, and if by the type I had hit Enter for the third it looked like everyone else was going for the quick two-word quip and the subject was already changing, I’d be sorely tempted to type “QED” and “bye” and close the window.
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### Author:  [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/16 "2005-09-11T06:05:38Z")
We have a chat room now?
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### Author:  [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/17 "2005-09-11T08:39:36Z")
> [@Earthworm Jim](#):
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> I think I’m connecting correctly (using GAIM) but when i join #straightdope I’m the only one in the room - so I figure I must be doing something wrong.
Hey, me too! I’m all by myself over heare, so I figure I’ve done something wrong… 😕
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### Author:  [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/18 "2005-09-11T08:41:20Z")
Over heare?! No wonder no one wants to chat!
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### Author:  [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/19 "2005-09-11T11:45:27Z")
Do the following things:
1. Download mIRC from here: [http://www.mirc.com/](http://www.mirc.com/) and install
2. Go to View and then Options
3. Click Connect and fill in the fields
a. Nickname is what you will be known as in the chatroom
b. You should also fill in an Alternative if the first one is already taken
4. Under Connect, click Servers, and scroll down until you see Newnet
a. IRC Server should say: Newnet: Random Server. If it doesn’t, change it.
5. Click Options. Into the default port, put either 6666 or 6667
6. Click Identd and then check the Enable Identd Server
Then click Connect again, and then click Connect to Server.
mIRC will then try to connect you to a Newnet server. When it does, a lot of stuff will scroll down. When it stops, type /join #straightdope.
You will then be in a chatroom with all of us. The best times for chatting seems to be in the evening hours. But sometimes I’m in there in the afternoon, so it just depends. I really hope we see more people there!
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### Author:  [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-more-dopers-join-the-straightdope-irc-chat-room/320910/20 "2005-09-11T12:09:20Z")
I tried the instructions above and have ended up cast into limbo - apparently I am now talking in #allnightcafe, fortunately to myself.
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