# Why don't the black guys ever make it?? (mild)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 7, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030 "2004-06-07T02:12:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/1 "2004-06-07T02:12:22Z")

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I’m talking about disaster movies. One would think, that in this day and age, that Hollywood would have gotten with the program, race relations-wise that is.

I mean, what is the deal?? Why is it that the “black guy” always dies. And they’re always really, REALLY nice guys too. They’ve been doing this as far back as “Grizzly” (we just KNEW the poor black guy was gonna be the first. He was a really nice guy, and he was black).

Except for Will Smith, I haven’t seen any black guys survive any monsters recently, be they extra-terrestrial, or of the “Jason” genre.

Come ON Hollywood, let’s let the black guys with the really nice personalies survive the disasters huh???

(FTR, I’m neither black, nor a guy).

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/2 "2004-06-07T02:15:51Z")

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The black guy lived in **The Day After Tomorrow** and **Dawn of the Dead** (2004).

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/3 "2004-06-07T02:17:20Z")

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Doesn’t Morgan Freeman usually survive?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/4 "2004-06-07T02:18:02Z")

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Blair Underwood lasted in _Deep Impact_. Or at least, lasted as long as everyone else.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/5 "2004-06-07T02:18:05Z")

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:rolleyes:

I typed out a long, well worded response as to how and why this is so wrong, but it isn’t even worth it. This is one of the lamest and most baseless OPs I’ve seen in awhile.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/6 "2004-06-07T02:22:08Z")

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Blade lived through both movies.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/7 "2004-06-07T02:26:25Z")

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> **gobear** said:  
> The black guy lived in The Day After Tomorrow

Wasn’t it two black guys in that one? The nerdy one and the one with the dog?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/8 "2004-06-07T02:27:02Z")

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So did the two cops in the Bad Boy movies. So did Lando Calrissian. So did Danny Glover in the Lethal Weapon movies.

Shall we continue, or have you realized that this wasn’t the best premise for a Pit thread yet?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/9 "2004-06-07T02:27:17Z")

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> This is one of the lamest and most baseless OPs I’ve seen in awhile.

It’s not _that_ bad.

Actually, your response inspired me to do a google search and I came across this [site](http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/racial.html). You can judge for yourself.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/10 "2004-06-07T02:29:26Z")

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So I guess a black guy in a red shirt is just straight-up fucked.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/11 "2004-06-07T02:29:56Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Wasn’t it two black guys in that one? The nerdy one and the one with the dog?

Good point–I was thinking of the homeless guy, but the nerd lived, too.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/12 "2004-06-07T02:32:37Z")

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LL Cool J was one of two survivors, along with Thomas Jane, in “Deep Blue Sea.”

All the speaking part black people lived in “Independence Day.”

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/13 "2004-06-07T02:32:52Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> So I guess a black guy in a red shirt is just straight-up fucked.

Well, yeah, it’s kinda like being Ensign Jones on the original Star Trek. “Spock, Bones, and Ensign Jones, report to the transporter room. Jones, don’t check out any library books on the way.”

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/14 "2004-06-07T02:33:59Z")

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Didn’t LL Cool J outlive the shark in Deep Blue Sea?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/15 "2004-06-07T02:34:15Z")

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People should also lighten the hell up. Even if **CanvasShoes** is serious, you don’t have to be.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/16 "2004-06-07T02:35:07Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> It’s not _that_ bad.
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> Actually, your response inspired me to do a google search and I came across this [site](http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/racial.html). You can judge for yourself.

After reading that page, I think this thread should be renamed to **Why doesn’t Paul Winfield ever make it?**

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/17 "2004-06-07T02:35:45Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Well, yeah, it’s kinda like being Ensign Jones on the original Star Trek. “Spock, Bones, and Ensign Jones, report to the transporter room. Jones, don’t check out any library books on the way.”

Wasn’t there a Family Guy bit like this"

Kirk: I’m going down to the planet. Spock, Bones, Scotty, and Ensign Jones, you’re with me."

Ensign Jones: “Oh, crap!”

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/18 "2004-06-07T02:35:45Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> It’s not _that_ bad.
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> Actually, your response inspired me to do a google search and I came across this [site](http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/racial.html). You can judge for yourself.

Well, that was quite selective, and it left out a boatload, not even to mention the inanity of the Schwarzenegger commentary. He’s the star, the hero, the big name. Of COURSE he survives, except in the Terminator movies. But that certainly didn’t make a dent in the opinions of the guy on that website, did it?

How about Ice-T in Surviving The Game? Or doesn’t that count because Charles S. Dutton bought it?

Give me a break. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/19 "2004-06-07T02:40:10Z")

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I think Ice-T also survived in _Anaconda_.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-the-black-guys-ever-make-it-mild/249030/20 "2004-06-07T02:40:22Z")

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_House on Haunted Hill_ had a white girl and a black guy survive.

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