# Why don't you find a puppy to kick?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 27, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672 "2014-08-27T19:25:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/1 "2014-08-27T19:25:43Z")

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You know the meme that someone is so evil they kick puppies?

[Des Hague, chief executive officer of sports concessions company Centerplate, was caught on video kicking a puppy in an elevator](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/27/video-shows-ceo-kicking-puppy-in-elevator-a-friends-pet-caused-me-to-lose-control/)

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> “My immediate reaction to this news was, this is a guy who will kick and drag a friend’s dog — what else is there to say about him?” said Steve Paskoff, CEO of corporate sensitivity training company ELI. “And if he treats defenseless dogs this way, how is he treating people?”

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/2 "2014-08-27T19:36:55Z")

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What a miserable asshole. I hope this costs his company millions in lost revenue.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/3 "2014-08-27T19:38:54Z")

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I once tried to kick a puppy that bit me, but I wasn’t quick enough. The animal control officer came and met me in the ER, and then he went and, I guess, kicked the puppy or something.

Not all puppies are innocent.

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/4 "2014-08-27T19:42:08Z")

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Ironically, you know who NEVER kicked a puppy?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/5 "2014-08-27T19:42:16Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Not all puppies are innocent.

He’s kicking the puppy as they enter the elevator. The puppy lies down on the floor, making no provocation. And then the guy just starts kicking him. I’m in the pup’s court on this one.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/6 "2014-08-27T19:50:55Z")

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> Hague previously held executive positions at IHOP, Safeway, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and 7-Eleven.

No wonder the guy can’t hold down a job. 😃

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> The dog did not suffer any serious injuries in the incident, and it has been removed from its owner’s care by the SPCA of British Columbia.

Now why did the SPCA take the dog from the owner? Because he let a douchbag take it for a walk?

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/7 "2014-08-27T19:59:28Z")

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> “My immediate reaction to this news was, this is a guy who will kick and drag a friend’s dog — what else is there to say about him?” said Steve Paskoff, CEO of corporate sensitivity training company ELI. “And if he treats defenseless dogs this way, how is he treating people?”

I can’t watch the video here but the quote doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t think the way he treats a dog has anything to do with the way he treats people. Some people think that animals are less important than humans.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/8 "2014-08-27T20:41:45Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> I once tried to kick a puppy that bit me, but I wasn’t quick enough. The animal control officer came and met me in the ER, and then he went and, I guess, kicked the puppy or something.
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> Not all puppies are innocent.

Do you really have to act like this in every thread?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/9 "2014-08-27T20:43:39Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> Ironically, you know who NEVER kicked a puppy?

Franklin Roosevelt?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/10 "2014-08-27T20:44:23Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> > “My immediate reaction to this news was, this is a guy who will kick and drag a friend’s dog — what else is there to say about him?” said Steve Paskoff, CEO of corporate sensitivity training company ELI. “And if he treats defenseless dogs this way, how is he treating people?”
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> I can’t watch the video here but the quote doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t think the way he treats a dog has anything to do with the way he treats people. Some people think that animals are less important than humans.

That’s true.

And some people think that power is power, and that the way an individual wields it (especially when he thinks he’s in private) is indicative of how he feels entitled to wield it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/11 "2014-08-27T20:45:33Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> I wouldn’t think the way he treats a dog has anything to do with the way he treats people. Some people think that animals are less important than humans.

This has nothing to do with the hierarchy of animals and humans.

Cruelty to animals has been shown to be strongly linked to general lack of empathy and sociopathic behaviour. Also it’s considered a felony.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/12 "2014-08-27T20:45:33Z")

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What a worthless piece of shit. I hope that little Dobie grows up and tears his balls off someday.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/13 "2014-08-27T20:53:34Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> I can’t watch the video here but the quote doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t think the way he treats a dog has anything to do with the way he treats people. Some people think that animals are less important than humans.

You’ve seen that quote that’s been attributed to Dave Barry, right?

\*“A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person.” \*

Same concept here, I think. How a person treats another who cannot/does not fight back can tell you a lot about that person.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/14 "2014-08-27T21:10:03Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> This has nothing to do with the hierarchy of animals and humans.
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> Cruelty to animals has been shown to be strongly linked to general lack of empathy and sociopathic behaviour. Also it’s considered a felony.

Well, they say sociopaths (or perhaps borderline sociopaths) make the best CEO’s. His only mistake is getting publicly caught in his sociopathy.

Curious why they blurred out the face when the story told us who it was?

He seems very young (at least from the back) to be a CEO of a large (non-startup) company and to have had all those other executive positions.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/15 "2014-08-27T21:11:47Z")

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> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> What a miserable asshole. I hope this costs his company millions in lost revenue.

Why make the stockholders suffer? I hope he gets fired and loses his stock options.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/16 "2014-08-27T21:20:17Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Well, they say sociopaths (or perhaps borderline sociopaths) make the best CEO’s. His only mistake is getting publicly caught in his sociopathy.
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> Curious why they blurred out the face when the story told us who it was?
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> He seems very young (at least from the back) to be a CEO of a large (non-startup) company and to have had all those other executive positions.

Puppy-kicking keeps you young-looking.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/17 "2014-08-28T00:05:51Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Puppy-kicking keeps you young-looking.

So, Dick Clark kicked puppies? 😛

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/18 "2014-08-28T00:58:45Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> I once tried to kick a puppy that bit me, but I wasn’t quick enough. The animal control officer came and met me in the ER, and then he went and, I guess, kicked the puppy or something.
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> Not all puppies are innocent.

I am certainly not going to defend puppies in general.

But this video is clearly inappropriate behavior. The puppy-kicker has no rational reason for kicking the puppy at that time - it was sitting down and behaving. Even if you thought kicking a puppy was a valid disciplinary measure, there was nothing to discipline at that time and self-defense was clearly not an issue either.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/19 "2014-09-03T17:38:40Z")

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[Update](http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/03/news/companies/dog-kicking-ceo/index.html):

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> Centerplate, which runs food concessions at more than 300 stadiums, arenas and other venues, said Desmond Hague resigned as CEO after a company investigation into his “personal misconduct involving the mistreatment of an animal in his care.”

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-find-a-puppy-to-kick/696672/20 "2014-09-03T18:06:13Z")

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Well, that’s a good start.

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