# Why don't you idiots calm down? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208 "2004-04-27T02:38:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/81 "2004-04-27T18:44:11Z")
**vanilla** , it is not required that you be popular to post on the SDMB. It is merely required that you have a valid credit card. šŸ†’šŸ˜ƒ I mean, look at me! Iā€™ve _never_ been liked or popular here, but thatā€™s _never once_ detered me from inflicting myself on the posters in _any_ thread, no matter _how_ sensitive the subject, nor _how_ uninformed I was. Nor how unwanted I was, either! So cheer up! Learn to be brazen & boorish, & you shall soon be a Social Lion, like me. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/82 "2004-04-27T19:11:40Z")
> [@Aries28](#): > > Iā€™m not picking on youā€¦but just out of curiosityā€¦do you differentiate between Fundie Christians and Christians or do you consider all Christians to be a hate group Hereā€™s one atheist who makes a clear distinction between the two. Heck, if a Christian chose to self-describe as fundamentalist, and tried to live his or her life by such strict tenets, but didnā€™t feel called by God to cram said tenets down everyone elseā€™s throat, Iā€™d respect that person as a sincere Christian too. People here like you, **Polycarp, Siege** to me are admirable examples of living oneā€™s faith with Christā€™s message of love foremost in their dealings with others. One of my best friends is Christian. (Ha! Itā€™s about time one of us godless heathens trotted that one out, eh?) I consider her a saint on Earth ā€“ not because sheā€™s vociferously devout, or patently pious, or a regular churchgoer ā€“ sheā€™s not. Well, sheā€™d go more often to church if the severely disabled foster children she takes care of left her the time. Nope, sheā€™s earthy, often profane, and far from sinless. But sheā€™s also loving, kind, generous, and a hearth at which all who love her, or need love, faithful or not, can warm themselves. Iā€™m pretty sure sheā€™s against abortion, but she doesnā€™t preach about it. She has too much respect for others to demand that they follow the path sheā€™s chosen to a good life. I wish every Christian could be like her. > [@jlzania](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > [hijack] > > Quote: > > EddyTeddyFreddy -Well, I promise not to consider all Christians to be closeminded, hate-filled clench-asses if you promise not to consider all pro-choice people to advocate abortion as birth control for brainless sluts. > > But havenā€™t you admitted to being a DQ on the boards, which makes you, by your own admission, a ragingly anal clench-ass by definition? [/hijack] Hey, no fair! Alls I said was, I school dressage. Iā€™m only at Training Level, and likely to stay there. And I _ **never** _ put white wraps on my horseā€™s legs. Heck, I even muck out my own stalls. How can I possibly qualify for DQ-ity? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Inoshiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a9adbd/32.png) [@Inoshiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inoshiro)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/83 "2004-04-27T19:27:24Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I think your sig is funny, **Vanilla**. > > You should expect that Fox News would try to portray this protest in the most negative light posible, though and wouldnā€™t you agree that it would be pretty easy for a camera crew to find similarly grating and annoying people at an anti-abortion rally or a Bush rally or pretty much any other rally? Jon Stewartā€™s _Daily Show_ last night did just that. They had video of a guy at the counter-rally screaming into a megaphone at the women. The rantings went something like ā€œitā€™s real simple, SUBMIT!, stay at home, go back to the kitchen, not that hard, etcā€¦ā€. On a 1-10 scale of sheer craziness, while Whoopie might rank about 4, this guy was clearly an 8 or a 9. I would have said 9 or 10 but he didnā€™t have some sort of elaborate uniform or clown makeup or something on. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/84 "2004-04-27T19:47:33Z")
The OP is simply (more) proof that watching Fox makes you stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/85 "2004-04-27T20:20:29Z")
Every day on the way to work, I drive by the anti-abortion crusaders, hanging out on the sidewalk in front of the hospital, with their signs with pictures of dead fetuses. I very badly want to stop the car and go up and tell them that Iā€™m pregnant, single, and broke. (I AM single and broke, but not pregnant.) I want to ask them if theyā€™ll pay my rent, buy diapers and food, and also a $500/month daycare bill for the baby. Do you think any of them will say yes?? I canā€™t help but think you gotta be one sick bitch to show pictures of dead fetuses to people that are just driving down the street. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/86 "2004-04-27T20:51:38Z")
Oh my, I see that instead of rotating the cross 90 degrees and inserting it anally, **vanilla** has climbed up on top of it. :rolleyes: Sheā€™s also thrown off the weighty shackles of generosity, tolerance and friendliness that have apparently been such terrible burdens to her and other self-professed unChrist-like ā€œChristiansā€ of her ilk, revealing her true nature as an intolerant bigot (with an apparent feish for haiku-like syntax). Iā€™m a nobody on this board, a nonentity whom no one knows or cares about, so you can ignore my rantings if you want. But though Iā€™m a relative newbie, I actually lurked for some time before signing up last December to post, and Iā€™ve read an awful lot of threads from both self-professed pseudo-Christians like you, and those who actually try to follow the path of humility and compassion that their Lord laid out for them. People like **Siege** and **PolyCarp** and dozens more ā€“ they donā€™t seem to seek glorification as Jewels Without Blemish ā€“ they simply act as they would have others act towards them. They are among the best ā€œadvertisementsā€ for Christianity here on the Dope, and I have tremendous respect and admiration for them. No Christian-hating for me. In any event, as a wise, compassionate fellow Jew once said some years back, ā€œLet he who is without sin cast the first stone.ā€ I suspect that an admitted fornicator and murderer such as **vanilla** had better put down her burlap sack of rocks. Remember, dearie: the glass house you save might be your own. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/87 "2004-04-27T20:53:25Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > Is this true? I know Catholics, specifically, are against birth control (although it certainly doesnā€™t stop me from using it, or my highly devout mother from getting tied) but Iā€™ve never heard of other denominations being anti-BC. An abortion removes an actual fetus, a tubal prevents said fetus from even forming. Even as a pro-choice kind of girl, I see a big difference between the two. > > Any fundies want to clarify? IAMNAF, but there are some who donā€™t believe in it-a small percentage, though. Thereā€™s a philosphy called something like, ā€œquiver fullā€ or whatever. Itā€™s not a hard-right swerve, ' **nilla** , itā€™s a hard judgemental one. Whatever happened to ā€œlet he who is without sin cast the first stone?ā€ I never got the impression you were trying to be popular. I thought you were trying to be kind. Compassionate. You know, the kinds of things Jesus, who is SUPPOSED to be your saviour, was all about? Guess I was wrong. If you wanna join the **His4NEVER** types, be my guest. Just donā€™t try and claim itā€™s about being a good Christian. Itā€™s not. Itā€™s about feeling superior to others. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/88 "2004-04-27T20:57:39Z")
> [@trublmakr](#): > > Every day on the way to work, I drive by the anti-abortion crusaders, hanging out on the sidewalk in front of the hospital, with their signs with pictures of dead fetuses. > I very badly want to stop the car and go up and tell them that Iā€™m pregnant, single, and broke. (I AM single and broke, but not pregnant.) I want to ask them if theyā€™ll pay my rent, buy diapers and food, and also a $500/month daycare bill for the baby. Do you think any of them will say yes?? > I canā€™t help but think you gotta be one sick bitch to show pictures of dead fetuses to people that are just driving down the street. Well ignoring that you ā€œvery badly wantā€ to lieā€¦ Depends on [who](http://www.birthright.org/) you ask. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/89 "2004-04-27T21:16:13Z")
Christianity is all about love and acceptance of any and all sins. How could I have not seen that? Christians who compromise and say no one will ever go to Hell, (God is a big meanie) and no judgment will ever occur, There are no consequneces to sin are right! How could I have not known this.Its right there in the Bible! You guys are proving my point perfectly. Compromise and the masses love you (youre compassionate), tell the truth and you are a ignorant bigot(unfair!) ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/90 "2004-04-27T21:20:34Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Christianity is all about love and acceptance of any and all sins. > How could I have not seen that? > > Christians who compromise and say no one will ever go to Hell, (God is a big meanie) and no judgment will ever occur, There are no consequneces to sin are right! > > How could I have not known this.Its right there in the Bible! > > You guys are proving my point perfectly. > > Compromise and the masses love you (youre compassionate), > tell the truth and you are a ignorant bigot(unfair!) Christianity is not about accepting sins. ā€œLove the sinner, hate the sinā€ ring any bells for you? And this ā€˜truthā€™ you say youā€™re telling, is your truth, the Judeo-Christian truth, not scientific fact truth. You need to keep that disctinction clear. ---
**Author:** ![Tobio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@Tobio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tobio)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/91 "2004-04-27T21:23:52Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Christianity is all about love and acceptance of any and all sins. > How could I have not seen that? > > Christians who compromise and say no one will ever go to Hell, (God is a big meanie) and no judgment will ever occur, There are no consequneces to sin are right! > > How could I have not known this.Its right there in the Bible! > > You guys are proving my point perfectly. > > Compromise and the masses love you (youre compassionate), > tell the truth and you are a ignorant bigot(unfair!) I tend to go by what this guy said: > [@Jesus Christ](#): > > ā€˜You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.ā€™ This is the first and great commandment. A second likewise is this, ā€˜You shall love your neighbor as yourself.ā€™ The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/92 "2004-04-27T21:30:42Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Christianity is all about love and acceptance of any and all sins. > How could I have not seen that? It pains me to see you corrupted by the fiends at the board at suspect youā€™re visiting. Christianity isnā€™t about love and acceptance of _any and all_ **sins**. Itā€™s about love and acceptance of _any and all_ **people**. Or at least thatā€™s what I thought it was supposed to be about based on what **Tobio** quoted from your Lord. ---
**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/93 "2004-04-27T22:12:07Z")
**vanilla** I really have to say this just doesnā€™t seem like _you_. Truly, prior to this your views have seemed rather instructive to me (a non-Christian) rather than intolerant. Your posts lately make me view you as another intolerant fundie and Iā€™m wondering, is there something going on behind the scenes? Is everything okay? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/94 "2004-04-27T22:13:36Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > It pains me to see you corrupted by the fiends at the board at suspect youā€™re visiting. > > Christianity isnā€™t about love and acceptance of _any and all_ **sins**. Itā€™s about love and acceptance of _any and all_ **people**. Or at least thatā€™s what I thought it was supposed to be about based on what **Tobio** quoted from your Lord. Perhaps it used to be. Perhaps it still is for some. But for the most part, itā€™s now about money, politics, power and corruption. Iā€™m presently self-destructing over in IMHO. Youā€™re all welcome to pile on, if you like. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/95 "2004-04-27T22:14:51Z")
**trublmakr** > [@](#): > > . . .I canā€™t help but think you gotta be one sick bitch to show pictures of dead fetuses to people that are just driving down the street. Acyually, the chap who paraded outside of the clinic I escorted at waved a (really crappily made) doll that had been run through on a steel skewer. And had a hard on for polyester and something that gave him wicked breath. Between him and the stupid hag who shouted into her bullhorn (as was pointed out earlier, let technology work for you) my weekends were endless fun and frolic. Christ, I hate people sometimes. Waste ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/96 "2004-04-27T22:16:09Z")
yes, everything is fine. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/97 "2004-04-27T22:20:28Z")
> [@trublmakr](#): > > I want to ask them if theyā€™ll pay my rent, buy diapers and food, and also a $500/month daycare bill for the baby. Do you think any of them will say yes?? Some would. My mother contributes generously to a charity which helps women both before and after the birth of the baby. There is some overlap between people involved in this charity, and people hanging out in front of clinics. (The overlap does not include my mother, thank goodness.) ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/98 "2004-04-27T22:31:47Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > yes, everything is fine. šŸ™‚ Iā€™m glad, but why this sudden personality swerve? Were you lying to us for the last year or so? I canā€™t believe that, as your posts tended to be very open and friendly and even-handed. Has your head been doing 360-degree turns? Have you been upchucking pea soup lately? This just doesnā€™t sound like you. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/99 "2004-04-27T22:37:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Christians who compromise and say no one will ever go to Hell, (God is a big meanie) and no judgment will ever occur, There are no consequneces to sin are right! There may well be a judgment coming. But hereā€™s a newsflash for you and all fundamentalists (whether youā€™re Muslim, Jewish, Christian, or Movementarian): God, if such Being there is, will judge His creatures. Not you. **NOT YOU.** Until such time, back the fuck off and tend to your own poisoned garden. Youā€™re in no position to judge anyone, since ā€“ being an acknowledged murdering whore and all ā€“ youā€™re more surely bound for hellfire than most of us. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208/100 "2004-04-27T22:40:38Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > That sig is the definition of closed minded and judgmentalness (if thatā€™s even a word). Howard dean for president is the definitionā€¦ šŸ˜• Whatā€™s the big deal with the sig? I must be missing something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-idiots-calm-down/242208.md?page=6)