# Why don't you support Bernie Sanders? (if you don't) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 17, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632 "2019-06-17T02:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/981 "2020-02-24T17:07:48Z")
The parts of Bernie’s platform that are unpopular are abolishing private health insurance(i.e. Medicare for all), abolishing ICE, providing health insurance for illegal immigrants, decriminalizing border crossings, letting imprisoned felons vote and banning fracking(unpopular in Michigan,PA and Wisconsin). That is a lot of targets for a Republican attack ad campaign. Of these MFA is particularly important because it is such a huge policy which will affect practically every voter in some way. But the immigration stuff will present a very juicy target also particularly aimed at working-class whites. The wider economic context is also important. Unemployment is at a near-record low. Median wages are at a record high and have been growing strongly for six years. Trump has a 54% approval rating on the economy around ten points higher than his general approval rating. You could hardly pick a worse time to run on a platform of a socialist revolution. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/982 "2020-02-24T18:04:12Z")
[54% of people](https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/) support a single-payer plan that eliminates private insurance and lets them keep their doctors (fig. 10). More importantly, support for single-payer is divided on very partisan lines, which closely map to political messaging about it (fig. 4, fig. 7). The kind of “unpopularity” that wins elections. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/983 "2020-02-24T19:01:34Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > [54% of people](https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/) support a single-payer plan that eliminates private insurance and lets them keep their doctors (fig. 10). > > More importantly, support for single-payer is divided on very partisan lines, which closely map to political messaging about it (fig. 4, fig. 7). The kind of “unpopularity” that wins elections. How does that kind of support translate to the state electoral college mapping? I think you’ll find that a 54% support for single payer is not enough. The country isn’t there yet. It should be. It’s stupid that it’s even so close. But here we are in 2020 USA. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/984 "2020-02-24T19:07:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is a wild guess. This stuff can’t be predicted this early. We just don’t know. It’s entirely possible that Bernie is the strongest candidate (which is what I think, BTW, but I recognize it’s just a guess right now). So what should we do? Nominate Sanders now. Hold the election. And if it turns out that he can’t win, we just ask for a do-over and nominate somebody else. Obviously, we don’t know how Sanders will do in a general election. But we can make reasonable predictions. And those reasonable predictions say that Sanders is not a strong candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/985 "2020-02-24T19:09:37Z")
I’m surprised we haven’t heard private health insurance companies themselves putting up much protest/fight yet against Medicare for All, considering it would make their entire existence obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/986 "2020-02-24T19:26:40Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > [54% of people](https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/) support a single-payer plan that eliminates private insurance and lets them keep their doctors (fig. 10). OK. Note that Fig 9 suggests that support is highly sensitive to the possibility that MFA leads to delays in “some medical tests and treatments” in which case opposition goes up to 70%. You can bet that this will be a massive part of the attacks on MFA and there will be plenty of examples from Canada that will be cited. Also note that the general trend in the main question has been downwards from 57% to 51%. And no one is really attacking MFA yet. If Bernie becomes the nominee you will see a massive round of attacks from both Trump and the health insurance industry. So I remain unconvinced that MFA is anything other than a big political risk. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/987 "2020-02-24T19:27:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So what should we do? Vote for who you think combines the best chance to win with the best issues by your judgment. For me, that’s Sanders. > [@](#): > > Obviously, we don’t know how Sanders will do in a general election. But we can make reasonable predictions. And those reasonable predictions say that Sanders is not a strong candidate. I don’t think those predictions are “reasonable”. I think every other candidate has weaknesses too, and IMO (which is a guess just like yours), the other candidates’ weaknesses are greater than Bernie’s. But I’m not saying you’re wrong if you think Bernie is a weaker candidate (I disagree with this, but it’s based on feelings) – I’m saying you’re wrong if you have certainty or even strong confidence that he can’t win. By all means, support another candidate if you think that’s the best path. And if Bernie wins the nomination, I hope you’ll support him, as I will support whomever the party nominates. We’ll see who wins, but anyone who says, this early, that they know, or have any confidence about, who can win in the general election, is full of crap. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/988 "2020-02-24T19:47:40Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > How does that kind of support translate to the state electoral college mapping? I think you’ll find that a 54% support for single payer is not enough. The country isn’t there yet. It should be. It’s stupid that it’s even so close. But here we are in 2020 USA. It’s less popular in purpler states, in the polls I’ve seen, to be sure. I don’t think I follow what you mean by “not enough,” though. The claim was that Sanders is unelectable because of his unpopular ideas. I wasn’t suggesting this number in particular is a sign of Sanders’ appeal to Floridians or whatever. Just that it’s not a “weakness” that’s going to bring everything “crashing down.” 54% is, all told, not so scary. Certainly it’s a better forecast than if you polled voters about how they felt about being friends with Vladimir Putin or bragging about sexual assault in 2015. Not a serious comparison, but it _is_ true that nobody’s ever really made a national pitch for genuinely universal healthcare. If the Democrats actually sell a coherent, even remotely unified plan to their base I’d expect that to move substantially, in the same way that Trump gave people permission to say “eh what the fuck - my opinion about this is different now.” Unless and until that happens, there’s always that confounding factor of voters keying their opinions to that of their candidate of choice – Clinton wasn’t for single-payer, Biden’s not, Mayor Pete’s not, and so on, so why wouldn’t the Democratic base poll similarly? > [@Lantern](#): > > OK. Note that Fig 9 suggests that support is highly sensitive to the possibility that MFA leads to delays in “some medical tests and treatments” in which case opposition goes up to 70%. You can bet that this will be a massive part of the attacks on MFA and there will be plenty of examples from Canada that will be cited. Also note that the general trend in the main question has been downwards from 57% to 51%. And no one is really attacking MFA yet. If Bernie becomes the nominee you will see a massive round of attacks from both Trump and the health insurance industry. So I remain unconvinced that MFA is anything other than a big political risk. OK. Is Medicare for All “unpopular,” though? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/989 "2020-02-24T19:55:54Z")
Latest Morning Consult national poll: > Bernie 32% Bloomberg 20% Biden 19% Buttigieg 12% Warren 10% Klobuchar 6% Steyer 3% Gabbard 2% Also, from that same poll, for the first time Bernie is now #1 in the black vote across the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/990 "2020-02-24T20:07:25Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > OK. Is Medicare for All “unpopular,” though? I think any realistic version of it, which would involve increased taxes and at least some delays in treatments, is unpopular. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/991 "2020-02-24T21:25:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So what should we do? Nominate Sanders now. Hold the election. And if it turns out that he can’t win, we just ask for a do-over and nominate somebody else. > > Obviously, we don’t know how Sanders will do in a general election. But we can make reasonable predictions. And those reasonable predictions say that **Sanders is not a strong candidate**. Don’t you think you should provide a cite for this? It would help all parties to this, from all sides. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/992 "2020-02-24T21:27:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest Morning Consult national poll: > > [https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1232015346703441926?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet](https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1232015346703441926?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) > > Bernie 32% > Bloomberg 20% > Biden 19% > Buttigieg 12% > Warren 10% > Klobuchar 6% > Steyer 3% > Gabbard 2% > > Also, from that same poll, for the first time Bernie is now #1 in the black vote across the nation. Eyccch. I despair for the Democratic Party which Bernie has so often insulted. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/993 "2020-02-24T21:36:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Eyccch. I despair for the Democratic Party which Bernie has so often insulted. Beating Trump is more important than defending the honor (or whatever) of the Democratic party. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/994 "2020-02-24T21:37:25Z")
I’m not a Bernie supporter but he did impress me in the 60 minutes interview. Maybe it was seeing him calm and smiling instead of angry and yelling. I may not be as opposed to his policies as I thought. That said, I do fear that he cannot beat Trump. Right now, though, he’s higher than Biden on my list because I think Biden is just too gaffe-prone. If Bernie is the nominee, I will go all in for him. I think he needs to keep selling the narrative that what he proposes is akin to the New Deal and similar to what they have in Scandinavia. He also needs to keep selling the positives of Medicare for All (ie, no high deductibles or copayments, complete freedom to choose any doctor you want, not just one on your employer’s network, not having to change doctors and plans every time your employer wants to change, not having to worry about losing insurance if you lose your job, not having to worry about balance billing etc). ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/995 "2020-02-24T23:30:10Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Bernie’s taking a position on healthcare that’s all-or-nothing. > > Check out this poll on M4A in swing states: > [Kaiser Poll: Swing Voters In Key States Rate Medicare For All A ‘Bad Idea’ - The Partnership for America’s Health Care Future](https://americashealthcarefuture.org/kaiser-poll-swing-voters-in-key-states-rate-medicare-for-all-a-bad-idea/) > > He’s counting on his ability to sell “socialism” to low-information voters.\*\* That works when trying to win the party’s nomination, but it’s DOA when selling it to a general population\*\*. Yep. ‘Socialism’ sounds appealing to a fairly small minority of Americans, who believe that Bernie will hammer the rich (and do some re-distributin’). (My emphasis.) That doesn’t mean there aren’t major problems to be solved with the current system: there are. Rising income and asset inequality actually do threaten the prosperity of our nation, and must be dealt with. But they must be dealt with intelligently, not with simplistic ‘the rich are evil’ resentment politics. Quote for the day: > [@](#): > > **Rising inequality is a big problem, but getting Trump reelected isn’t going to solve it.** —Garry Kasparov, [https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1232057331543920641](https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1232057331543920641) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/996 "2020-02-25T00:16:33Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Don’t you think you should provide a cite for this? It would help all parties to this, from all sides. > **[Hall\_Thompson\_Base\_Turnout.pdf](https://www.andrewbenjaminhall.com/Hall_Thompson_Base_Turnout.pdf)** > > 391.65 KB > **[The story of the midterms is the triumph of the moderates – on both sides](https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2018/11/09/the-story-of-the-midterms-is-the-triumph-of-the-moderates-on-both-sides/)** > > Following this week’s midterm elections, in 2019 the Democratic Party will be in the majority in the US House of Representatives. Ryan Williamson and Jamie Carson have previously argued that … These links are for House races because the number of presidential elections isn’t statistically significant. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/997 "2020-02-25T02:26:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Yep. ‘Socialism’ sounds appealing to a fairly small minority of Americans, who believe that Bernie will hammer the rich (and do some re-distributin’). (My emphasis.) > > That doesn’t mean there aren’t major problems to be solved with the current system: there are. Rising income and asset inequality actually do threaten the prosperity of our nation, and must be dealt with. But they must be dealt with intelligently, not with simplistic ‘the rich are evil’ resentment politics. > > Quote for the day: > > —Garry Kasparov, [https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1232057331543920641](https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1232057331543920641) There are no americans that want socialism because it’s a fairer way to address societal problems? They must have venal and small reasons for what they think and do? Because balance or something? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/998 "2020-02-25T02:45:51Z")
> [@Respect2Glory](#): > > How many Americans are you talking about? MOST Americans are attending Trump Rallies. It’s EASY to prove - watch the rally videos. The youtube videos of people waiting to get into the rallies are even more interesting. MOST people have no idea what law Trump has broke. They just repeat the rhetoric that he’s guilty of something that evidently other men aren’t. HMMM That’s laughable. But, I’m not done… > > I’ve not seen anyone mention that Bernie HONEYMOONED IN MOSCOW. > > But, the DEMS handing out free stuff without truthfully telling the public how much it is going to cost us and our children and their children… like Obamanation’s Obummer-Care which caused many small businesses to cut way back or close up shop. Then, we saw hundreds of home empty as families gathered under one roof to make ends meet. And, this was while businesses downtown closed up until it looked like a ghost town. > > Oh yeah, Free Stuff = Good Times? = **NOT!!!** > > If you want to see what SOCIALISM really is, see Venezuela RIGHT NOW. And, find the youtube video showing their police burning the truckloads of food that the US and other countries sent them -OR- when people were lined up and shot, how their president told the media to say that these people were corrupt WHEN THEY WERE ORDINARY VENEZUELAN CITIZENS. > > Oh yeah, SOCIALISM = **NOT!!!** > > There is loads of evidence flooding the internet and youtube. I’m sorry if you think that a MEME is evidence. The DEMS / MSM are not telling The Truth about much of anything. Their many lies are far worse. > > Or, do you seriously think that most Americans are deplorable and worthless? > > Q. WHO said this crap? Are they your friend or foe? > > - Yes - Really? You let your friends talk like this without a challenge or just strangers?! Is this how you really feel? I think that you may need new friends. > > A. You DO NOT have a clue until you RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF who your friends and foes are. We cannot simply trust a stranger to tell us the truth. Does that make sense to you? I mean, unless I ask family or a lifelong friend, my kid won’t have a babysitter. Oh yes, I’m going to get really deep in a minute. Keep reading… > > Otherwise, you are just like-minded, like the guys at the bar, all drinking the same drink. Ok regulars, stay with me… > > MOST people think that most are good people. THAT is a healthy way of thinking. Except for those who are pure evil, like Jeffrey Epstein who duped a lot of elites and some of our civil servants into that sick life of kidnapping, raping and eating children and people on his island, in hotels and on his airplane. BUT, Epstein was NOT the ring leader. Nor an elite by right. He wiggled himself into their elite lair by corruption. But, who opened that door? I’ve seen evidence about Hitlery that made seasoned officers cry and vomit. Thank GOD for good folks at NYPD who confiscated Anthony Weiner’s laptop and made copies and sent them to whomever they thought would do the right thing. What they found were Hitlery’s emails and videos of Anthony, his wife, Huma Abdine, who was also Hitlery’s aid, among others that were not named, doing the unthinkable to children - like demons. I wish that I would have downloaded that video. But, it’s been labeled as child porn, so it’s no longer being shared online. Still, thousands of us saw it before it was squashed. > > Bloomberg is in a photo with Jeffrey Epstein’s girlfriend and child handler – [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/bernie/comments/dtpzis/michael_bloomberg_posing_with_ghislaine_maxwell/) > > Why is 5G internet signal bad for us? There are LOTS of stories online from people who have gotten sick, and even whole families. Not everyone feels the affects of 5G. but that doesn’t mean that it’s not working against your body/mind. We no longer have 5G in our area. > > What is KURU? Why is Kuru called the Laughing disease? Kuru is a very rare disease. It is caused by an infectious protein (prion) found in contaminated human brain tissue. Kuru causes brain and nervous system changes similar to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. > > I bet you may be able to guess who has it by doing a little research. > (Hitlery, Comey, Warren, Pelosi and Schiff are at the top of the list) > > Because, the Corrupt Ones WILLING OR NOT HAVE SIDED WITH THEIR FRIENDS, and they are also child abductors, child-sex-traders, etc., and in being this way, they support millions of other perverts on black markets, worldwide. But, just 300,000 children are missing in the US every year. -so- I’ve had to explain to my young son why he has to pay attention to his surroundings when he plays outside or when we’re away from home, such as shopping in a store, or playing at the park. Thanks to websites that list these perverted criminal’s addresses on a map, we know that we are surrounded. (And, even I know know that a few of these people were wrongly charged, but we still have 32 perverts surrounding us!) So, we’re covering all the ways of kidnappers. (ie. Anti-Kidnapping Tips for Kids : Double Wrist Release Anti-Kidnapping Defense – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY3kU4YvztI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY3kU4YvztI)) > > Thanks to team Trump, the main frame of child-sex-trafficking has been STOPPED between countries. Now, our law enforcement is entwined with any professional who works with children, and they’re working on teaching and training the public how to recognize a child abductor or pervert. The Boy Scouts offered us training last year. > > **We’ve known FOR YEARS that our gov’t has been corrupt. The Corrupt Ones have picked apart every POTUS and congressman who threatened the Corrupt Ones to be arrested.** > > WATCH THIS VIDEO that the Corrupt DEMS do not want you to see… > \Donald J. Trump: The Long Road to the White House (1980 - 2017)\ – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305-erOr3jk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305-erOr3jk) > > The DEMS DePopulation Plan has been in affect for years; air, food and water! Trump’s Team is working to clean it up, to give every person a healthy chance at life. We no longer have chemical trails in our skies! Don’t believe the debunking about theorists believing chem-trails. I’ve seen the evidence from REAL Scientists who post the evidence online FOR ALL TO SEE. > > I have more evidence if you care to see it. Otherwise, do your own research and SEE EVIDENCE from Q, lawyers, witnesses, NEW News Reporters & Investigators @youtube and other websites (Gab, Minds, [Parler.com](http://Parler.com), etc.)… What choice do we have since our mainstream media is as corrupt as google, facebook and twitter?! Search Engine choice: [DuckDuckGo.com](http://DuckDuckGo.com). This is my youtube list… > > A Anon > OAN > AND WE KNOW > Black Conservative Patriot > BREAKING NEWS > Breitbart > DECLASSIFIED > dnajlion7 > Greg Hunter > JustInformed Talk > The Next News Network > Tru Reporting > X22Report > &MORE!!! > #TheGreatAwakening #WakeUP #WalkAway Are you accidently hitting the CAP button randomly, or is there an actual pattern/set of rules when you post? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/999 "2020-02-25T03:46:36Z")
Bernie doesn’t even know how much all of his stuff will cost: [Bernie Sanders' disastrous answer on '60 Minutes' | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632/1000 "2020-02-25T04:20:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Bernie doesn’t even know how much all of his stuff will cost: [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html) Do you think it will be more expensive than having troinp in office? Why can we afford every thing in the world, and war, and govt employed vandals on the throat of the usa, and a horrific worst potus of all time, but bernie goddamned sanders is the real freaking emergency because he hasn’t line itemed his plan yet? Really? People are so very very careful with a buck when the broader USA might benefit, but if it’s an evil lying right wing scumbag it’s like: “Ah what can you do? those guys always do that to us” And that’s democrats. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-you-support-bernie-sanders-if-you-dont/835632.md?page=51)