# Why has badchad not been banned yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930 "2007-03-14T19:37:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/21 "2007-03-14T20:21:26Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] **Harborwolf** is pretty much dead on. Although opinon is split among the mods, as of right now the consensus is that **badchad** ’s behavior since his return from suspension has not sufficiently over the line so as to merit banning. [/QUOTE] Thank you. You may lock the thread – unless, of course, leaving it open leads to a pileon (or pile-on) that will make me an easy $50… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/22 "2007-03-14T20:29:35Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] **Harborwolf** is pretty much dead on. Although opinon is split among the mods, as of right now the consensus is that **badchad** ’s behavior since his return from suspension has not sufficiently over the line so as to merit banning. [/QUOTE] I figured he was providing comic relief? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/23 "2007-03-14T20:32:20Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] I figured he was providing comic relief? [/QUOTE] **Harborwolf**? Nah, he’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/24 "2007-03-14T20:38:24Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] **Harborwolf**? Nah, he’s OK. [/QUOTE] That’s awfully harsh coming from the cuddly mod. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/25 "2007-03-14T20:44:10Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] That’s awfully harsh coming from the cuddly mod. [/QUOTE] Giraffe is cuddly? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/26 "2007-03-14T20:57:02Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] Giraffe is cuddly? [/QUOTE] Let’s just say that he’s the only moderator with fluffy bunny jack slippers. For a cite, [here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318547) his first pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/27 "2007-03-14T21:01:28Z")
Sorry, but I think he has something valuable to say. He often says what I’d like to. He’s sort of like the **Der Trihs** of the atheist crowd. Over the top, sure, but he represents my viewpoint on religion (especially on days I wake up cranky and hating the world.) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/28 "2007-03-14T21:05:11Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] He’s sort of like the **Der Trihs** of the atheist crowd. [/QUOTE] I thought **Der Trihs** was the **Der Trihs** of the atheist crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Schuyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/54ee81/32.png) [@Schuyler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schuyler)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/29 "2007-03-14T21:08:25Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] **Harborwolf** is pretty much dead on. Although opinon is split among the mods, as of right now the consensus is that **badchad** ’s behavior since his return from suspension has not sufficiently over the line so as to merit banning. [/QUOTE] I guess this is an endorsement from TPTB that calling Jesus a cunt in Great Debates is acceptable behavior, and not jerkish. (Did they really want to lower the bar that far?) Also, **Giraffe** ’s post is my cite that the SDMB moderators, collectively, do not coddle to theists, since calling their (the theists) god a cunt gets a pass. On a practical note, I suspect that the mods mucked around in private too long discussing whether to ban or not to ban, let the threads in the Pit get carried away into a pile-on, and now can’t ban the jerk without it looking like they are doing it to appease the majority of the SDMB membership. Just my $0.02. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/30 "2007-03-14T21:12:36Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing] I thought **Der Trihs** was the **Der Trihs** of the atheist crowd. [/QUOTE] So did I ! I’m an atheist, I’m **Der Trihs**. . . it seems to follow . . . ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/31 "2007-03-14T21:15:15Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] So did I ! I’m an atheist, I’m **Der Trihs**. . . it seems to follow . . . [/QUOTE] Clearly you don’t understand yourself as well as you thought you did… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/32 "2007-03-14T21:15:33Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] So did I ! I’m an atheist, I’m **Der Trihs**. . . it seems to follow . . . [/QUOTE] Meh. Quit trying to apply that new-fangled logic thinger to this! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/33 "2007-03-14T21:18:22Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] So did I ! I’m an atheist, I’m **Der Trihs**. . . it seems to follow . . . [/QUOTE] A man of your gifts might have heard of the phrase “to out-Herod Herod”, I’m thinking. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/34 "2007-03-14T21:27:29Z")
[QUOTE=Derh Trihs] So did I ! I’m an atheist, I’m **Der Trihs**. . . it seems to follow . . . [/QUOTE] Hmmm…perhaps that was poorly put. I don’t really associate **Der Trihs** with atheism. I associate him more with loud, over-the-top leftist attitudes, particularly when it comes to the military, Bush, etc. A lot of people despise him for it, and he frequently annoys me, but to many people, he’s only saying what they’re thinking. For me, it’s pretty much the same with **badchad**. I think religion is stupid, no matter how benign a form it takes. I don’t argue it any more because I’m tired of pounding my skull against that particular wall. But I’m glad somebody like **badchad** is stubbornly relentless about it. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/35 "2007-03-14T21:33:09Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] **Harborwolf** is pretty much dead on. Although opinon is split among the mods, as of right now the consensus is that **badchad** ’s behavior since his return from suspension has not sufficiently over the line so as to merit banning. [/QUOTE] In other words, it seems that they are giving him enough rope to well and truly hang himself. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/36 "2007-03-14T21:41:10Z")
[QUOTE=Schuyler] I guess this is an endorsement from TPTB that calling Jesus a cunt in Great Debates is acceptable behavior, and not jerkish. [/QUOTE] Not just acceptable, but encouraged. We mods just _love_ it when people call Jesus a cunt! It makes us really happy. We’re thinking about making a board rule forbidding any mention of Jesus Christ which does not also call him a cunt, but we’re still hashing out the details. For example, should non-cunt Jesus references result in automatic banning or merely a suspension? Hard to say. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/37 "2007-03-14T22:10:36Z")
With respect, **Giraffe** , you can be as sarcastic as you like, but you Mods are not actually giving anyone much guidance as to what behavior is preferred and what is frowned upon. I realize that “don’t be a jerk” is not a bright-line test, but when you overlook behavior that is to many of us clearly over the line, and then “sarcastically” encourage more of the same, you’re actually making a confusing situation worse. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/38 "2007-03-14T22:13:24Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Not just acceptable, but encouraged. We mods just _love_ it when people call Jesus a cunt! It makes us really happy. We’re thinking about making a board rule forbidding any mention of Jesus Christ which does not also call him a cunt, but we’re still hashing out the details. For example, should non-cunt Jesus references result in automatic banning or merely a suspension? Hard to say. [/QUOTE] Y’all tried that before with Martin Luther King. Didn’t work then. Won’t work now. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/39 "2007-03-14T22:22:11Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] With respect, **Giraffe** , you can be as sarcastic as you like, but you Mods are not actually giving anyone much guidance as to what behavior is preferred and what is frowned upon. I realize that “don’t be a jerk” is not a bright-line test, but when you overlook behavior that is to many of us clearly over the line, and then “sarcastically” encourage more of the same, you’re actually making a confusing situation worse. [/QUOTE] Making a confusing situation worse? By mocking the idea that any viewpoint or behavior that doesn’t receive a warning or banning from the mods is somehow implicitly _endorsed_ by us? Anyone who has trouble grasping that concept is a hopeless moron. I don’t mind confusing hopeless morons. Ignoring my unhelpful sarcasm, what sort of guidance are you looking for, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930/40 "2007-03-14T22:22:33Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] For me, it’s pretty much the same with **badchad**. I think religion is stupid, no matter how benign a form it takes. I don’t argue it any more because I’m tired of pounding my skull against that particular wall. But I’m glad somebody like **badchad** is stubbornly relentless about it. [/QUOTE] I’ve thought about this too. It’s kind of like how Al Sharpton is a jerk, and an ass, and over-the-top, and frequently indulges in wild hyperbole (Sharpton himself will pretty much admit to this), but he is a necessary evil, filling the niche of saying what a lot of people are thinking. I used to see Diogenes the Cynic this way (and admire him for it), but he seems to have calmed down a lot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-badchad-not-been-banned-yet/395930.md?page=3)