# Why has John McCain turned into such a cranky old man? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 3, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211 "2013-02-03T12:15:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/41 "2013-02-06T16:27:13Z")
Ugh. John McCain really had me going. At one time I thought he was a moderate and a decent man. I have been proven wrong time and time again and I am left with almost no one in the Republican Party I can point to and say yes, this person is both a moderate and a decent human being. Term limits. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/42 "2013-02-06T16:39:56Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Ugh. John McCain really had me going. At one time I thought he was a moderate and a decent man. > > I have been proven wrong time and time again and I am left with almost no one in the Republican Party I can point to and say yes, this person is both a moderate and a decent human being. > > Term limits. For a Republican in Arizona, he is a moderate and decent man. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/43 "2013-02-06T17:20:05Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Ugh. John McCain really had me going. At one time I thought he was a moderate and a decent man. > > I have been proven wrong time and time again and I am left with almost no one in the Republican Party I can point to and say yes, this person is both a moderate and a decent human being. > > Term limits. Chuck Hagel, Dick Lugar, Jon Huntsman (though he really is deeply conservative, he’s pragmatic and reasonable), to name a few. But Lugar lost re-election in the primary against teabagger Mourdock, Huntsman didn’t stand a chance against the loons he stood beside in the Nutjob debates, and you can see what they’re doing to Hagel now. If moderates in the Republican party don’t act quickly, they’ll be an extinct breed we only read about in history books. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/44 "2013-02-06T17:34:08Z")
Thank you, Shayna, for digging up a great cite. What a nasty and vindictive little prick he is. The thing that’s alarming about the letter to Obama is that you know he didn’t just sit there and bang it out himself, he surely dictated it to a secretary who probably did her best to get him to tone down the vitriol. The original version as dictated was quite likely a doozy. For some reason he got it in his head that he deserved to win in 2008 and Obama did not and he is never going to make peace with the result of that election. If the nation thought half as highly of him as he does himself, he’d be president. When will he stop acting like a high school girl who didn’t get to be head cheerleader? My guess is never. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/45 "2013-02-06T19:26:10Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The thing that’s alarming about the letter to Obama is that you know he didn’t just sit there and bang it out himself, he surely dictated it to a secretary who probably did her best to get him to tone down the vitriol. The original version as dictated was quite likely a doozy. Anyone else hear it in the voice of Homer dicatating his angry letter to Mr. Burns? > [@](#): > > Dear Mr. Burns… I’m so glad you enjoyed my son’s blood and your card was just great. In case you can’t tell, I’m being sarcastic… ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/46 "2013-02-06T19:39:12Z")
For a second there I thought this thread was about Bruce Willis and his recent comments about gun control. I misread the title as “ **Why has John McClane turned into such a cranky old man?** ” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/47 "2013-02-06T20:32:54Z")
At any rate, [McCain is against filibustering Chuck Hagel’s nomination for SecDef.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/04/john-mccain-filibuster_n_2618461.html?utm_hp_ref=politics) ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/48 "2013-02-06T22:02:03Z")
Well that’s mighty white of him. ---
**Author:** ![silverkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@silverkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silverkitty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211/49 "2013-02-15T05:19:07Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > What has happened to McCain since he lost the election? He seems to have become a very bitter old man. I wonder if he still feels screwed over by the Republican party from the 2000 election. He got to run in 2008 but he had to know that was a losing battle after the economy tanked and the country turned against Bush. > > He’s always been quite vain and loved the Sunday morning news shows, but now it seems like he can’t stand to not have the camera in front of him as he rants against just about everything and everyone. I think he is becoming senile, then I wonder about his health. Today that lump on the side of his face seemed much larger, so I wonder if the cancer has come back. Bitter he may be , he sold his soul for his ambition and still lost. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-has-john-mccain-turned-into-such-a-cranky-old-man/649211.md?page=2)