# Why hasn't Colin Farell been charged with rape? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861 "2006-01-20T19:07:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/201 "2006-01-26T16:23:47Z")
I dont’ withdraw the thesis of my OP. I do withdraw the language. For those of you foaming at the mouth, eager to find out that I’ve been sued by a film studio, cool your jets. This is America. One may ask a question, and aside from a few very specific questions, one may ask such questions under protection of the 1st Ammendment. ( One may not ask questions regarding the injury to or threat aimed at the POTUS, etc. Do a Search, it’s been covered well here on the Dope. ). So, I’m not up nights worrying. Reword the title as, " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" And, talk amongst yourselves, because with a SDMB Moderator joining the flamefest to the degree that he already has, I’ve nothing more to say after this. No thread is worth being Banned over. 🙂 **Quint**? I will give you this- I literally did a typo. It’s not 29 years. It’s 26. 🙂 Got paid to shoot my first job when I was 17. I’m 43 now. No clue why I hit 29 instead of 26, but 26 it is. Nice cheap shot during your " apology", stating basically that I’ve padded 10 years to my career. You always admit you were lying and being 100% accusatory and incorrect that way? Nice. Thanks for the mostly kind of apology. I mostly kind of accept it. So, I apologize for bending everybody’s nose out of shape. Someone up there assumed that there would be the beautiful rush of appreciation, that there’d be posts stating how I’d “shown what a classy guy I am”, etc. Not hardly. I am just patently unwilling to continue to participate in a thread where a Moderator is just waiting for me to attack him directly so he can Ban me. Ain’t happening, not here, not anywhere. I have the utmost respect for **tomndebb** , and have nothing but praise for his work here. I apologize for posting something - anything- that cause ire from **tomndebb** , it wasn’t my intention to do so. See ya. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/202 "2006-01-26T16:37:02Z")
That was weak, **Cartooniverse**. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/203 "2006-01-26T16:37:21Z")
Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/204 "2006-01-26T17:17:50Z")
Cartooniverse, let me be the first to applaud you for being a real class hack. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/205 "2006-01-26T17:21:17Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Reword the title as, " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" For the umpteenth time, because the movie in question didn’t do that. **Cartooniverse** , I don’t think well of you or ill of you, but in this thread you’re wrong. It happens, sometimes. Lord knows, it’s certainly happened to me a few times, and it stings when you realize the people who are telling you you’re wrong just may be right. Sometimes, you’ve just got to face the fact that you were wrong, admit it, and move on. It may gain you respect if you do that, and it will certainly make people who didn’t think ill of you before that lose respect for you if you don’t. I’m sorry this happened to you, but if you’re going to continue to work yourself into a lather over something that never even happened, I’m afraid you’re stuck with the consequences. With regrets, CJ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/206 "2006-01-26T17:28:10Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Reword the title as, " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" Dude, it’s not funny any more. Just stop. K? ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/207 "2006-01-26T17:42:41Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" That’s your new premise? Ok. In that case, you didn’t accuse anyone of rape and you aren’t identifying a particular film that you accuse of doing this. I’d ask “What studio has released a film that made use ect…?” if I were at all interested in this discussion. Regardless, your outrage and crying “rape” was still way out of line, and you are still (somehow) standing by that. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/208 "2006-01-26T17:46:06Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Reword the title as, " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" Because it’s not a crime. Asked and answered. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/209 "2006-01-26T18:06:42Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > This is America. One may ask a question, and aside from a few very specific questions, one may ask such questions under protection of the 1st Ammendment. ( One may not ask questions regarding the injury to or threat aimed at the POTUS, etc. Do a Search, it’s been covered well here on the Dope. ) What? We’re not allowed to ask questions about the injuries caused by John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Charles J. Guiteau, or John Hinckley, Jr.? > [@](#): > > Reword the title as, " Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners?" To which I would reply, _which_ studio released such a film, and _which_ film is it? Countless other posters have proven that this recent Pocahontas film isn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/210 "2006-01-26T18:27:18Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > The personal shit was brought up by **Quint**. You’re talking to the wrong Doper. He chose to attack me personally, instead of attacking my OP and stance on the topic. Well it is hard to believe that anyone as determined as you are to totally ignore the facts could ever hold any position of responsibility. **There were no love scenes!** :rolleyes: Your dramatic thread title and first post are completely undermined by the fact that **no love scenes took place between Colin Farrell and a girl**. And you admit you’ve never watched the film. Yet you blithely ignore repeated statements from people who have. Over and over again. Instead you desperately launch into personal attacks and non sequitors and irrelevancies. Like this: > [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Are you like, new to message boards or something, that you’re incapable of seeing this kind of a thing? Believe me, I would have been just as happy not to read the attack on both of my careers launched by **Quint** , who appears now to be lying through his/her teeth. Nobody who isn’t in the business would phrase it that way. " Hiding on the camera truck". So, I call bullshit back. You’re the one who posted the same lie several times in your OP. You refuse to discuss it. ON A BOARD DEDICATED TO FIGHTING IGNORANCE! By comparison, who cares what your qualifications are? > [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Legally? I didn’t cite Virginia law. Morally? Guess what- this isn’t G.Q. It’s an OP that originated in a Forum where members are permitted to state opinion. What law? **There were no love scenes!** Wah tmorals? **There were no love scenes!** What opinion? **There were no love scenes!** > [@Cartooniverse](#): > > As I am free to state mine, ya’ll are free to state yours. Demanding that I prove an opinion is ludicrous. In my opinion, a 14 year old etc. etc. You seem to completely miss the point. **There were no love scenes!** That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact! Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/211 "2006-01-26T18:35:04Z")
Wow, you’re amazingly pathetic, **Cartooniverse**. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/212 "2006-01-26T19:15:35Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Why hasn’t the studio that released a film that made use of a 14 year old underage child been cited for using children posing as wives or sexual partners? Am I interpreting this correctly? Have you now backed off of your allegations of “love scenes” and “faked intimacy” and instead are alleging that the studio should be charged with a crime because a teenaged actress was portrayed as being _married_ in the film? Are you suggesting that it’s a crime for a film to imply that an underaged character has had sex _off-screen_? Are you shitting me? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/213 "2006-01-26T20:49:21Z")
Dear Cecil, I’ve recently come across a thread in which a poster’s position has been forcefully put down by, get this, facts, yet he doesn’t seem to back down. Discussing the events with various behavior specialists has yielded no results so I’ve decided to ask the master: Are there people physically unable to admit they’re wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/214 "2006-01-26T20:56:00Z")
No, it is NOT true that some people are physically unable to admit they are wrong. And nothing you can possibly say will change my mind about this. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/215 "2006-01-26T23:00:17Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > No, it is NOT true that some people are physically unable to admit they are wrong. And nothing you can possibly say will change my mind about this. What if I gave you a cookie? **Cartooniverse** , I don’t know what’s going on with you, but all I can see in this thread is that you were just plain wrong about what went on in the film in question, and you’re not willing to admit that you were wrong. Admitting you’re wrong is no big deal; it’s a wonderful growth opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/216 "2006-01-26T23:35:55Z")
Hmmm… I was going to react, but I just realized the first part of my reaction was taken over by **glee** in post #210; then the second part by **Diogenes** in #212 and the third by **Martin Hyde** in post #208, which leaves me my final paragraph: So, sure, it may be that it squicks someone to no end to even _think_ of the idea of a minor even being associated with a portrayal of someone’s wife or lover, and that person has been endowed by the Creator with the unalienable right to state it forcefully to any who will listen – but that evidently it is NOT the consensus position of the society we live in. [Elsewhere](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7036085#post7036085) I posted a huge quote of Florida (for the sake of example, couldn’t find Virginia) statute and case law cites wherein it is pretty clear that the courts have ruled repeatedly that circumstance and intent DO COUNT when deciding if something involving a minor is or is not a crime. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/217 "2006-01-27T00:17:15Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Well it is hard to believe that anyone as determined as you are to totally ignore the facts could ever hold any position of responsibility. **There were no love scenes!** :rolleyes: > > Your dramatic thread title and first post are completely undermined by the fact that **no love scenes took place between Colin Farrell and a girl**. > And you admit you’ve never watched the film. > Yet you blithely ignore repeated statements from people who have. > Over and over again. > Instead you desperately launch into personal attacks and non sequitors and irrelevancies. > Like this: > > You’re the one who posted the same lie several times in your OP. You refuse to discuss it. ON A BOARD DEDICATED TO FIGHTING IGNORANCE! > By comparison, who cares what your qualifications are? > > What law? **There were no love scenes!** > Wah tmorals? **There were no love scenes!** > What opinion? **There were no love scenes!** > > You seem to completely miss the point. **There were no love scenes!** > That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact! > > Sheesh. Indeed. I just saw the film, and I won’t bother to reiterate your bolded (and very accurate) statements. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/218 "2006-01-27T00:37:31Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Well it is hard to believe that anyone as determined as you are to totally ignore the facts could ever hold any position of responsibility. **There were no love scenes!** :rolleyes: > > Your dramatic thread title and first post are completely undermined by the fact that **no love scenes took place between Colin Farrell and a girl**. > And you admit you’ve never watched the film. > Yet you blithely ignore repeated statements from people who have. > Over and over again. This thread will become the standard people will point to as an example of someone refusing to admit they’re wrong when the evidence is right there in front of their face (not just the people in this thread saying so, but the fact that the movie is currently in theaters and he could easily go see for himself). Congratulations Cartooniverse. You’re now going to be famous for something else besides being at Ground Zero on 9/11. You let your stubbornness override the best message board legacy anyone could have hoped for. Whenever the name Cartooniverse swam into my consciousness, I’d always think “Yeah, that cool guy who wrote those great posts!” but unfortunately, from now on, it’ll be “That idiot who refused to admit he was wrong about a movie he never saw.” ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/219 "2006-01-27T01:06:14Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I dont’ withdraw the thesis of my OP. I do withdraw the language. \This is America. One may ask a question, and aside from a few very specific questions, one may ask such questions under protection of the 1st Ammendment.\ Let’s revisit the OP. > [@Cartooniverse](#): > > The guy makes a movie. The young girl opposite him ( Playing Pocahontas to his John Smith ) is, according the CNN this morning, age 14 when the film was shot. There are love scenes. > > \ > > Saying it’s just a movie scene is bullshit, IMHO. Saying her Mom was on set is also bullshit. She was at the time a seriously underage child doing love scenes with an adult. > > \ > > And, for the legally picky, if he didn’t rape her, he surely might be charged with endangering the welfare of a minor, sexual battery, and so on. Sexual abuse and assault does not equal penetration, so whether or not he fucked her seems totally besides the point here. > > It’s kiddie porn. \ Not a lot of questions there, just a lot of lies. You are a patheic little man who is full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861/220 "2006-01-27T04:16:57Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > No, it is NOT true that some people are physically unable to admit they are wrong. And nothing you can possibly say will change my mind about this. _Checks playbill_ Hey…what do you know? It _does_ say, “Tonight, the role of **Cecil** will be played by **Lemur866**.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-hasnt-colin-farell-been-charged-with-rape/340861.md?page=12)