# Why have conservatives left this message board? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 14, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016 "2025-04-14T01:14:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/621 "2025-05-15T13:31:48Z")
The extremists get the headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/622 "2025-05-15T15:53:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The difference is that in the modern US, every position _but_ that of the “fundie/evangelical types” is ignored. You love the passive voice. When you use assign agency, it turns out what you’re saying isn’t true. Posters on this board clearly don’t ignore the non-fundy perspective. Or at least, not as a majority. This thread provides clear counterexamples. The media don’t. The top two religious news stories of the past week or so are the ordination of a new pope (not a fundie/evangelical type) and the Episcopalian refusal to treat White South Africans as refugees. Do the Fundies get outsized focus? Sure. But that’s a nuanced position. Blanket statements are false, obviously so when you avoid the passive voice. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/623 "2025-05-15T22:32:10Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I think they left because they get embarrassed at having to defend the shitty society they have built. As soon as they have a minor victory, like an uptick in the economy, they’ll crawl out and start crowing. Then, when things collapse again, they scurry away. A bunch of them were crawling around right after Trump won and they’ve fucked back off once he immediately drove the nation off a cliff. I agree with this. They can’t defend their positions. And will not admit that it really is about racism, misogyny, bigoty, and homophobia. I will defend them this \>.\< much though. I don’t think they understand why they feel that way. And there is no way to defend those feelings, because they don’t understand it. Those feelings have no place in a modern society, and now they are the ones that don’t fit in. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/624 "2025-05-15T22:48:49Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > that it really is about racism, misogyny, bigoty, and homophobia. Thankfully we can’t trace any of those things to the plain text reading of an original source. 📖 ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/625 "2025-05-15T23:07:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Those feelings have no place in a modern society, and now they are the ones that don’t fit in. Sadly, they fit in fine in America, just not on this board. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/626 "2025-05-15T23:16:03Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Those feelings have no place in a modern society, and now they are the ones that don’t fit in. > > > [@madmonk28](#): > > > > Sadly, they fit in fine in America, just not on this board. Even more sadly, going back to just open bigoty would be an improvement at this point in time. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/627 "2025-05-16T00:05:01Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@madmonk28](#): > > > > I think they left because they get embarrassed at having to defend the shitty society they have built. As soon as they have a minor victory, like an uptick in the economy, they’ll crawl out and start crowing. Then, when things collapse again, they scurry away. A bunch of them were crawling around right after Trump won and they’ve fucked back off once he immediately drove the nation off a cliff. > > I agree with this. They can’t defend their positions. Well, look, all apologies if I’ve been doing this wrong, but: I didn’t see any point in constantly _restating_ my positions — and I don’t believe I’ve felt any embarrassment, or some need to defend anything _else_ the useful idiot does in his spare time from him doing the stuff that I’m in favor of. Was I supposed to be posting that more often? A quick ‘I Have No Regrets’ once a week, or once a day, or something? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/628 "2025-05-16T00:06:55Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Was I supposed to be posting that more often? A quick ‘I Have No Regrets’ once a week, or once a day, or something? No, I already know you’re a piece of shit. I don’t need the confirmations. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/629 "2025-05-16T00:19:36Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > and I don’t believe I’ve felt any embarrassment, or some need to defend anything _else_ the useful idiot does in his spare time from him doing the stuff that I’m in favor of. Good to know you have no problem with the blatantly illegal and unconstitutional way Trump is doing that thing you’re in favor of. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/630 "2025-05-16T00:25:48Z")
But is he making the trains run on time? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/631 "2025-05-16T00:29:31Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > But is he making the trains run on time? I don’t believe so, no. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/632 "2025-05-16T00:30:01Z")
_He’s become nostalgic_ _Wants to own tomorrow_ _Discipline, is his passion!_ _Now, he says there’s none!_ _Outside the trains don’t run on time_ _He believes it’s not coincidence_ Gang of Four ~ Outside the Trains Don’t Run on Time ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/633 "2025-05-16T02:34:17Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I agree with this. They can’t defend their positions. And will not admit that it really is about racism, misogyny, bigoty, and homophobia. Yeah. It’s been noticeable for quite some time that the dwindling minority of people willing to even try to defend Republican/right wing positions (in places where open bigotry isn’t considered acceptable) spend a lot of time avoiding making any actual defenses. Instead they bob and weave, insisting that non-bigoted justifications for the positions of the Right _must_ exist while never giving any. We saw that demonstrated during the debate here and on other boards over same sex marriage, and in public as well; with the difference in the public version that they had the literal opportunity to make their case in court. I recall reading and participating in years of arguments with people who kept insisting over and over that a non-bigoted reason to oppose SSM _must_ exist, while refusing to even try to produce one. But it turned out? There _wasn’t_ one. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/634 "2025-05-16T05:13:38Z")
“Words mean something.” (Not really an argument, more like an evasion.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/635 "2025-05-17T01:35:39Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > No, absolutely WITH sarcasm. I never say “Happy Holidays”. I say “Puppy Holidays,” Happiness is a warm puppy. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/636 "2025-05-18T12:33:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Happiness is a warm puppy. Kristi Noem (on backup vocals): Bang, bang, shoot, shoot. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/637 "2025-05-18T17:38:10Z")
‘YOU’RE NOT MR. TRUMP’S YOKO KRISTI!!! I’m Mr. Trump’s Yoko!’ ~ Laura Loomer ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/638 "2025-06-25T13:30:08Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Kristi Noem (on backup vocals): Bang, bang, shoot, shoot. I’d say, “bravo”, if this wasn’t so close to tragic. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/639 "2025-06-25T14:42:22Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > ‘YOU’RE NOT MR. TRUMP’S YOKO KRISTI!!! Frank Drebin: “What’s a yokokristi?” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/640 "2025-06-25T15:02:31Z")
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